[Peace-discuss] In reference to comments on yesterdays News from Neptune

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Sun Jul 1 02:04:26 UTC 2018


That Everyman article could be written exactly the same way 10 years ago to Tea Party Republicans.  Change "Democrat- change it to R Republican.
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------ Original message------From: Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discussDate: Sat, Jun 30, 2018 6:11 PMTo: Karen Aram;Cc: Robert Naiman;peace-discuss at anti-war.net;Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss;Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] In reference to comments on yesterdays News from Neptune
https://americaneveryman.com/2018/06/30/ajamu-baraka-pushes-dementer-with-the-ocasio-cortez-placebo-my-position-statement-on-ocasio-cortez/
It’s unclear where Ocasio is herself - but not the Democratic party.


On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:43 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:




Very good, thank you Stuart. Let’s all keep our fingers crossed that she is able to stand by her declarations. Anything David Swanson has to say is good enough for me.







On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:38, stuartnlevy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:







It is there right now.



The antiwar.com thread quotes Ocasio on June 27th that it hadn't been deliberately removed, and she was looking into it.  So she did, and the statement is there.



I haven't compared it with the previous version, but David Swanson says it is both lengthened and improved.  He supports it and urges his readers to let her know they do too.












 -- Stuart




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From: "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>

Date: 6/30/18 11:15 (GMT-06:00) 
To: Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>,
peace-discuss at anti-war.net

Cc: peace <peace at lists.chambana.net>, "Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] In reference to comments on yesterdays News from Neptune





This is the piece removed from her website, wasn’t it? Has it been put back?










On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Robert Naiman via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:



https://ocasio2018.com/issues




[...]






A Peace Economy 




Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States has entangled itself in war and occupation throughout the Middle East and North Africa. As of 2018, we are currently involved in military action in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia.
 Hundreds of thousands of civilians in these countries have been killed either as collateral damage from American strikes or from the instability caused by U.S. interventions. Millions more have fled their broken countries, contributing to the global refugee
 crisis.





This continued action damages America’s legitimacy as a force for good, creates new generations of potential terrorists, and erodes American prosperity. In times when we’re told that there’s not enough money, Republicans and corporate Democrats seem to find
 the cash to fund a $1.1 trillion fighter jet program or a $1.7 trillion-dollar nuclear weapon “modernization” program. The costs are extreme: the Pentagon’s budget for 2018 is $700 billion dollars: to continue fighting an endless War on Terror and refighting
 the Cold War with a new arms race that nobody can win.





According to the Constitution, the right to declare war belongs to the legislative body, and yet many of these global acts of aggression have never once been voted on by Congress. In some cases, we've even acted unilaterally, without the backing of the United
 Nations.





America should not be in the business of destabilizing countries. While we may see ourselves as liberators, the world increasingly views us as occupiers and aggressors. Alexandria believes that we must end the "forever war" by bringing our troops home, and
 ending the air strikes that perpetuate the cycle of terrorism throughout the world.





By bringing our troops home, we can begin to heal the wounds we're opening by continuing military engagement. We can begin to repair our image. We can reunite military families, separated by repeated deployments. We can become stronger by building stronger
 diplomatic and economic ties, and by saving our armed forces only for when they're truly needed.



































[...]





Robert Naiman

Policy Director

Just Foreign Policy

www.justforeignpolicy.org

naiman at justforeignpolicy.org

(202) 448-2898 x1



































On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss
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https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2018/06/28/as-election-day-approached-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-removed-antiwar-foreign-policy-section-from-her-we



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