[Peace-discuss] Stop dividing AntiWar

Estabrook, Carl G galliher at illinois.edu
Mon Jul 16 11:06:33 UTC 2018


My first professor of New Testament studies in grad school was Krister Stendahl, author of the classic article, "The Apostle Paul and the Introspective Conscience of the West" - which deals also with Augustine and Luther.

Stendahl (who became a Lutheran bishop) pointed out that Paul saw the Law as a 'babysitter' (his word) until the messiah came.

And the best account of the kosher rules that I know (reference on request) describes how they are a symbolization of the rules of order and non-killing in the Ten Commandments (e.g., animals that kill to eat - or meat-eaters, including pigs - are not kosher). Thus the law symbolizes the messianic age, until messiah comes. That's why Christians are not bound by its ceremonial (symbolic) requirements, according to Paul.

--CGE
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"Also NOT Jesus' words and NOT in the New Testament, which supersedes the Old."

The New Testament is not a contradiction or superseding of the Law and the Prophets
(the old testament) but rather is a fulfillment of the OT.
The New is in the Old contained, the Old is in the New explained.
The New is in the Old concealed, the Old is in the New revealed.


Here are a few of those red letter words regarding the "Old Testament" being superseded and
made to none effect...

Heaven and earth will disintegrate before even the
smallest detail of the word of God will fail or lose its power.
- Luke 16.17 (The Passion Translation)

in case of some idea about cherrypicking a suitable translation...

But even the smallest part of a letter in the law cannot be changed.
- Luke 16.17 ("Easy-to-Read" Translation)  [RTFM, Francis...]



Facilius est autem caelum et terram praeterire, quam de lege unum apicem cadere.
- Lucas 16.17 (Vulgate)

ευκοπωτερον δε εστιν τον ουρανον και την γην παρελθειν η του νομου μιαν κεραιαν πεσειν
ΚΑΤΑ ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 16.17

天 地 废 去 较 比 律 法 的 一 点 一 画 落 空 还 容 易 。
- 路 加 福 音 16.17 ("he he ben 和合本 chinese union version, 简体字 simplified chars.)

and in context -

“The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John.
Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached,
and everyone is forcing their way into it.
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than
for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law."
- Luke 16.16-17 NIV





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