[Peace-discuss] moderator help

[bjornsona at ameritech.net]

Thank you, Stuart. As Stuart knows, we just lost a subscriber who I signed up at the Market on Saturday because I told this person the listserve content was factual, interesting antiwar content we don't get from regular media. Then the first posts she saw were squabbling about highly controversial already-settled case law. 
I have been guilty of responding to late-night posts unrelated to our anti-war message that angered me, when cooler heads advised me to ignore them. TMI Alert: it took some strong therapy for me to pull out all that early religiousity indoctrination when the cognitive dissonnance became too much!! 
Since we have not billed ourselves as Anne's or anyone else's therapy group, I move we either re-discuss the focus of this group at a personal face -to- face meeting, or we form a separate discussion list serve for the other topic.  
In the meantime, Wayne: my email is bjornsona at ameritech.net if you want to communicate that way. 
Anne
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------ Original message------From: Stuart LevyDate: Mon, Jul 30, 2018 8:40 AMTo: E. Wayne Johnson;bjornsona at ameritech.net;C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss;kmedina67;Cc: Stuart Levy;Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] moderator help

    Lots of right arguments go unheard, and many wrong ones flourish, or
    else why would the US still be supporting the bombardment of Yemen?

    

    Look, I signed up for AWARE as an anti-war group.   I go with David
    and Ann and Karen to work the farmer's market twice a month, and to
    the monthly demonstrations, to express and work for opposition to US
    participation in wars around the world.   I've done that and other
    things for many years, as many of you know who have been doing it
    beside me.

    

    I'm here on this list and others for discussion of opposition to war
    and what we can do about it.

    

    I didn't sign up to AWARE, and neither did the several people who
    joined this list just last weekend, to join an anti-abortion
    (and-oh-by-the-way-never-mind-what-happens-to-the-mothers) group.

    

    Anyone here who wishes to start or join such a group, run a market
    presence, hold demonstrations, carry on discussions, is welcome
    to.   But not on this list, please.

    

        Stuart

    

    On 07/30/2018 09:38 AM, E. Wayne
      Johnson via Peace-discuss wrote:

    
    
      
      If you are right, then the power of
        your argument should be sufficient

        to squelch those who oppose your ideas, and you ought not need
        to appeal to 

        a higher (Levitical) authority for narrowing of the limits of
        debate.

        

        And when you are wrong, to admit the fault, delete the offending
        code, and reboot.

        

        bjornsona--- via Peace-discuss wrote:

      
      
        
          Dear Moderator :)  What is the  agreement for
            what people are allowed to publish here? I hate to lose
            subscribers because we go off topic. (Guilty, I know).  
          

          
          
            Sent from my LG
                Phoenix 2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
          
        
        
          
            

            
            ------ Original message------
            From: C G Estabrook via
              Peace-discuss
            Date: Sun, Jul 29, 2018 8:57 AM
            To: kmedina67;
            Cc: Peace-discuss;
            Subject:Re: [Peace-discuss] Stop
              dividing AntiWar
            

            
          
          A paraphrase:
          

          
          "Until the conditions for Americans in the world (beset by
          terrorists) change, access to safe drone assassinations needs
          to be an option, if you value the life of Americans.
          

            "If you don't value the life of Americans, then criminalize
            them." 

            

              
                On Jul 29, 2018, at 12:59 AM, kmedina67
                  via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
                  wrote:
                

                
                  
                    Until the conditions for women change,
                      access to safe abortion needs to be an option, if
                      you value the life of the woman. 
                    

                    
                    If you don't value the life of the
                      woman,  then criminalize her. 
                    
                      
                        - Karen Medina
                        "The really great make you feel that
                          you, too, can become great" - Mark Twain
                        

                        
                      
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