[Peace-discuss] classical liberalism

[Estabrook, Carl G]

Depends on what you mean by 'classical liberalism.' The term is used variously.

"Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on *economic freedom*. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanization and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and the United States. Notable individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on the classical economic ideas espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of 'The Wealth of Nations' and on a belief in natural law, utilitarianism, and progress. The term 'classical liberalism' was applied in retrospect to distinguish *earlier 19th-century liberalism* from the newer social liberalism." [Wikipedia]

Roughly: classical liberalism = laissez-faire economics; social liberalism = e. g. the New Deal.

--CGE




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From: bjornsona at ameritech.net [bjornsona at ameritech.net]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:48 PM
To: Estabrook, Carl G
Subject: Re: classical liberalism

Thank you for the article. Classical liberalism is to be admired. Neo- to be shouted down and its proponents locked up as far as I am concerned. ;)

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From: Estabrook, Carl G
Date: Mon, Jul 30, 2018 4:54 PM
To: bjornsona at ameritech.net<mailto:bjornsona at ameritech.net>;
Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net<mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>;
Subject:RE: Barack Obama

Was I speaking of 'classical liberalism' or 'neoliberalism'? They're quite different.

Neoliberalism - a conscious, calculated construction by the US business elite - has characterized US government policy since the Carter administration; the response of the majority is 'populism' (which made Trump president).

Here's a good discussion of neoliberalism, from a year ago:
<https://www.thenation.com/article/noam-chomsky-neoliberalism-destroying-democracy/>.

--CGE

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From: bjornsona at ameritech.net<mailto:%20bjornsona at ameritech.net> [bjornsona at ameritech.net<mailto:[bjornsona at ameritech.net>]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 12:10 PM
To: Estabrook, Carl G
Subject: Barack Obama

First-term Barack Obama, just like first-term George W. Bush, #43, fooled this naive voter. Being "woke" /no sheeple are my adopted cliches for no more historical isms. No liberalism,  conservatism,  -neo-ism, colonialism, elitism, libertarianism,  feminazism, militarism,  etc. Because those are the past and as you say, the past rhymes.

My B. A. is in history, certain members of my family love history, history informs the present like no other field. History is current. There are historical figures acting on the present today and still stuck in the past, being isms. (Probably the entire Congress except for Maxine Walker and some  of the Pentagon. Yes, hyperbole. You can make a better guess than I.) However, imnsho, most of the young generation see poor or no jobs, violence,  expensive education,  destructing climate, difficult family life, global labor, capital. Most of them are not isms-they clearly see a different world. A different world which probably began at the Vietnam war. Or the invention of the computer/internet.

Calling out - Isms is relevant in terms of how they are used for divisions and why they no longer mean anything. I loved how you explained what classical liberalism is and how it has nothing to do with today. Most youth today care nothing for Left and Right or Up or Down or names. It is jobs, education. environment, clean air, water, land, healthcare, global society, their friends around the world not in cages.

I am sad and disappointed to see many in generation give up and watch Fox, fall for talking points, etc. We grew up with no draft and the smallest amount of war in the nation's history. We had a relatively easy life with cheap goods from China, until the 80s on. It was the boiling a frog in water. Our generation was taken down bit by bit.

What will replace the - isms?


Geeks, Freaks, Beats, Meats, Wheats?

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