[Peace-discuss] Fwd: A very long read on Russia US relations

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 1 21:12:44 UTC 2018


This article came from Raymond Smith, retired Political Officer of the US State Dept., he did two tours in the former Soviet Union, one in the late 70’s and another in the eighty’s. A friend from my past.

I first saw an article by Ray posted here by Mort, a couple years ago related to Russia/US relations. Found him on FB, and noted he frequently attempts to convince his friends, former colleagues, at State of the mistakes the US is making in respect to Russia. He is also the person who knew Kargalitsky.

 I never expect anything from him that would be too radical by US State Dept. terms, because these people fear loss of pension if they step out of line, not to mention condemnation from former colleagues, and we know how things work in academia if one steps out of line, but it does show that there are those scholars who are “irritated” over US propaganda in relation to Russia. Like Ray, they try but not enough from my perspective.


On Jun 1, 2018, at 13:45, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com<mailto:davidgreen50 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Just to read the author's background, one would assume it's going to be more of an insider/realist analysis, not going beyond the limits of allowable debate.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:18 PM, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
Exactly.

On May 31, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Plenty of useful and interesting facts are presented in ths article, but largely misses the point of the feral antagonism towards Russia and Putin by U.S. politicians, academics and media, namely that Russia is a (potential) global competitor for influence, ideas, resources, and power, something which cannot be countenanced (by our corporate dominated militarized state).

On May 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:


http://npetro.net/resources/Petro-FF+Spring+2018.pdf]

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