[Peace-discuss] Pepe is correct & Bannon mostly so

Tue Jun 5 13:03:16 UTC 2018

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From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Pepe is correct & Bannon mostly so

Yes, ‘nationalism’ is being used in two conflicting ways:

(1) the interests of a country's elite minority; (2) the interests of the majority, as when we speak of the interests of the nation versus neoliberalism.

On Jun 4, 2018, at 2:52 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com<mailto:davidgreen50 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Very interesting; but the more the word nationalism gets used from various persuasions, whether positively or pejoratively, the less it seems to mean in a consistent way; but nationalism has always been a kind of fiction, as Eric Hobsbawm and others taught us; as well as a political football, perhaps relevant as the World Cup approaches and we see that national identity is a given in the most crass and chauvinistic terms.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME – AGAIN

Steve Bannon is absolutely bonkers with what’s goin’ on in Italy. La Repubblica calls him “the Dark Knight of global populism”. He talked to the paper (portal). Here’s the low down.

For Bannon, “Rome is now at the center of world politics” (correct). He has “advised” La Lega’s Salvini, and said they paid due attention.

He’s enthusiastic that Lega and 5S “hit the heart of the European beast” (correct), foreign capitals and “foreign opposition media” (FT, Le Monde, etc.). He considers Salvini and Di Maio “heroic” – and the other hero is Berlusconi (not really). On 5S, he says they are “similar to socialist Sanders in the US”, anti-establishment and for transparency. And are allies to Italy’s “Trump” – referring to Salvini.

He’s sure “Brussels, the stock market and the financial powers will go through hell” (correct).

For Bannon, Italy is “a sleeping giant, with a huge economy” (correct). Brussels and media like the FT are “afraid of Italy” (true – the FT even invoked “barbarians”).

He expects a “confederation of free states” to emerge in place of the current EU (not so fast). “The fascists are in Brussels” (relatively correct). And “we are on the right side of history; Merkel and Macron will fall” (not so fast).

Trump is “back to his national-populist agenda” and “things could not be better for the US” (incorrect). Especially now that “the military have been sidelined from the administration” (but not the deep state – on the contrary). He thinks Pompeo could become President one day (Lord have mercy).

Bannon thinks the Judeo-Christian West must be united – thus no Russia demonization. He stresses Russia’s economy is smaller than Italy’s (correct). “The problem is Russia is hated by the Democrats because is a nationalist country and they have the Orthodox Church (fundamentally correct). “The real problem is Iran” (ridiculous).

Well, as you can see the man IS on a roll.

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