[Peace-discuss] [nppryan] FW: Teaching Against the Death Penalty

[C G Estabrook]

Francis—

I admire the principles on which you act in favor of the right to life of even reprobates like Gacy.

I suggest that if we are consistent and 'tell truth' about the murderous devil-law that ends human lives, we will be ashamed of ending so many other human lives.

Regards, Carl


> On Jun 9, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Boyle, Francis A <fboyle at illinois.edu> wrote:
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> Carl: You really are a Sick Twit! How many human beings  have you represented pro bono publico on death row? I can think of at least 4 in this country alone: John Wayne Gacey tortured to death by Governor Jim Edgar.  African American Amos King tortured to death by Jebbie Bush in Florida. African American Johnny Robinson tortured to death by Jebbie Bush in Florida. African American Brian Baldwin fried to death by Alabama. RIPs. 
> Francis A. Boyle
> Professor of Law
>  
> Francis A. Boyle
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> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 6:53 PM
> To: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [nppryan] FW: Teaching Against the Death Penalty
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> [The law as devil?]
> 
>             MORTIMER [K. Aram]
> Peace, cousin Percy. You will make him mad.
>             GLENDOWER [FAB]
> I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
>             HOTSPUR [CGE]
> Why, so can I, or so can any man,
> But will they come when you do call for them?
>             GLENDOWER [FAB]
> Why, I can teach you, cousin, to command the devil.
>             HOTSPUR [CGE]
> And I can teach thee, coz, to shame the devil
> By telling truth. Tell truth and shame the devil.
> If thou have power to raise him, bring him hither,
> And I’ll be sworn I have power to shame him hence.
> O, while you live, tell truth and shame the devil!
>             MORTIMER [K. Aram]
> Come, come, no more of this unprofitable chat.
> 
> --Henry IV, Part 1 (3.1)
> 
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> On Jun 9, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>  
> Carl, 
> 
> Your insistence on provoking anger by everyone and anyone against the organizations you purport to represent, is the inconsistency. Unlike the brain dead out there, with degrees after their names, who are so concerned with preserving the lives of “fetuses”, while caring nothing for the lives of children we are slaughtering daily, or those who are so concerned with the lives of women, their opportunities for advancement in their careers, while ignoring those we are killing daily elsewhere in the world, you do care about the lives of the already born. 
> 
> It’s unfortunate you choose to alienate and  prevent any possibility of uniting people, or groups to prevent such wonton deaths, with your personal views that are irrelevant .