[Peace-discuss] Instant Runoff Voting in Urbana 2007/08?

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Sat Jun 30 03:07:26 UTC 2018


The local tv program ‘AWARE on the Air’ was designed as a panel discussion of AWARE’s particular concerns, viz., US war-making and racist propaganda about its victims.

Instant Runoff Voting in Urbana sounds like a good idea, but I’m not sure it fits AOTA’s remit (or AWARE’s).  —CGE


> On Jun 29, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Karen Medina via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi James M,
> 
> IRV and RCV are great. I was not aware there was a group working for
> RCV. I am assuming you are new to town?
> 
> The Green Party and AWARE and several groups would probably be
> interested in what you have to say, especially if you think there is a
> chance for either.
> Both established parties are dead-set against it.
> My personal opinion is that Esther Patt is an amazing person and a
> great political mind, but long-term the political arc of both
> established parties is bending the same wrong way.
> 
> Carl E and Karen A -- possible AWARE on the Air guest ?
> 
> -karen m
> 
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dianna Visek via Peace-discuss
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> I worked with Durl on this back then.
>> 
>> The mainstream Democrats were extremely opposed to IRV and told folks all
>> kinds of terrible things about what would happen.  There were people at the
>> township meeting who had absolutely no understanding about what they were
>> voting for, but had been told they had to be there.  One older African
>> American  lady told me that IRV would take away our civil rights.  And we
>> were only asking to put an advisory referendum on the ballot.   Even if it
>> passed, the City wouldn't have to actually do anything.
>> 
>> Esther Patt was upfront about their opposition.  She said, "We worked for 20
>> years to take over the city.  Why would we risk changing things now?"
> 
>> On Friday, June 29, 2018, 1:13:36 PM CDT, James M. via Peace-discuss
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I ran across this article in the publici talking about IRV in Urbana:
>> 
>> (seems to be down at the moment):
>> http://publici.ucimc.org/a-brief-history-of-instant-runoff-voting-in-urbana-municipal-elections/
>> 
>> Web Archive Link:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20160809204842/http://publici.ucimc.org/a-brief-history-of-instant-runoff-voting-in-urbana-municipal-elections/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Doing research, it looks like Durl Kruse was spearheading this. I had found
>> an email address for him, but it no longer seems to work, I get a bounce
>> back when I mail to it. Does anyone have any current email address for Durl?
>> 
>> Or also, does anyone have more information about what happened with IRV in
>> Urbana or how to pick the torch back up? (the article seems to say that it
>> kinda petered out in 2008) The folks over at Illinois Ranked Choice Voting
>> (which is mainly comprised of volunteers in CU area) is looking to re-ignite
>> the conversation and potentially work towards getting Urbana to switch.
>> 
>> ---
>> James M
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