[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Gideon Levy: The Zionist Tango: Step Left, Step Right

Tue Mar 6 14:30:14 UTC 2018

 The fantasizing, such as it is, is about Americans pressuring their own government to promote a just settlement, which may not be "possible" in the current political context, but is at least possible in the sense of being subject to the concerted actions of American citizens. 
Regarding settlements, it's been shown to my satisfaction by both Norman Finkelstein and Gershon Shafir, on the basis of Palestinian geographers, that moderate adjustment of the 1967 borders would require the relocation of something like 27,000 Jewish families to create a viable Palestinians state.
In the past, thousands of Israeli settlers have been required or forced to leave both the Sinai (Egypt) and Gaza, albeit, admittedly, to focus the settlement project on the West Bank.
That said, Levy is amazing, and he also did a good interview with The Real News. But where is Jewish Voice for Peace, an American group, in regards to directing its attention at a liberal Jewish audience that would be receptive at this historical moment to a better understanding of the issue?
DG

    On ‎Monday‎, ‎March‎ ‎5‎, ‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎59‎:‎44‎ ‎PM‎ ‎CST, Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu> wrote:  

 Levy answered that question, noting the “impossibility” of getting all those colonies removed from the west bank. Moreover, the U.S. would never force the Israelis to remove all those colonies. As Levy says, the U.S. never was, or would be, serious about a just two state solution (with the state of the world as it exists). So, you are fantasizing…

On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:36 PM, David Green via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

It's a compelling talk, of course. He does not pull any punches. But if the U.S. govt. wanted to seriously promote a 2-state solution, it would happen. It is impossible if it's left just to Israel, the PA, and the BDS tactic.
DG
On ‎Sunday‎, ‎March‎ ‎4‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎12‎:‎12‎ ‎PM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

He, Gideon Levy, notes that he used to be for a two state solution, but now thinks that it's impossible. His is a pretty grim picture of the state of israel.

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