[Peace-discuss] Primary election day

[C G Estabrook]

A clear and informative account. Thanks.


> On Mar 21, 2018, at 8:32 AM, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> My analysis for what it is worth ;
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> Listed in order of the most votes received
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> Londrigan – Durbin and the DNC-DCCC backed candidate with the most money. I received half a dozen glossy mailers from her.
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> Jones – Mike and Lisa Madigan backed candidate with the 2nd most amount of money. Also backed by State of Illinois AFL-CIO President Michael Carrigan ( a real piece of shit ) who endorsed both Jones and Pritzger immediately at the beginning of the primary campaign season with NO vote from the rank and file of any of the AFL-CIO Unions as to whom the members wanted.
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> Gill – had the least amount of money but had an advantage over Ebel because Gill knows the entire district because of his previous run in 2012 when he came within ½ of 1 %  of beating Davis in a three way race. Gill worked the entire district hard, in between his full time job as an emergency room Physician. The DNC and the Madigans hate Gill because of Gill’s ; opposition to the wars and NAFTA as well as his support of single payer and the fact that he ran as an independent in 2016. They conducted a whisper smear campaign against him within groups that would have been inclined to vote for Gill. I encountered this TWICE locally. The Union bureaucracy both local and state wide were the main perpetrators of this. But also PDA refused to support Gill and the upper middle class liberals refused to support him because they thought Gill’s support of current Illinois gun laws was a cardinal sin, more important than the fact that Gill supported; single payer, opposed  NAFTA, supported free post high school education and Legalization of marijuana, supported financial transactions tax, and opposed the wars and the bloated military budget – Ah what priorities. I also heard a comment from one upper middle class liberal that : “ most people I have talked to ( other middle class liberals ) think that Gill is old news and we need someone fresh and new “.  ??? Did they think they were buying new clothing or something. That had to be one of the most superficial political criteria I have heard in a long time.
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> Ebel – The darling of the upper middle class liberals despite his blatant neo-liberal economic positions and his clear unapologetic pro-war views. Had more money than Gill but received fewer votes. His main base of support was in Champaign Urbana. Did state his support for single payer LATER in the campaign. 
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> Also, I don’t know what the percentage is but the number of votes totaled for all of the candidates is pretty low for the number of eligible voters that are in the district. So again low voter turnout played a key role as well in addition to the amount of money each candidate had.
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> David J.
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> From: C G Estabrook [mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: David Green
> Cc: David Johnson; peace; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net)
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Primary election day
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> That’s probably right, but it’s not clear to me what voters are thinking, or what information they’re voting on/
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> E.g., in our gerrymandered IL-13 CD, Londrigan got 24,000 votes: Jones got half that; Gill got 8,000; and Ebel 7,000. Why?
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> Londrigan?
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> On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:05 PM, David Green <davidgreen50 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> My first speculative reaction to the close race between Rauner  & Ives is that a lot of Ives supporters will probably sit it out in November; Rauner has offended the Trump base. My non-empirical prediction is that Pritzker will win handily as a result.
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> DG
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> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:18 PM, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> We probably should do what we can to prevent the Democrats’ taking control of the House. They won’t use it well.
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> > On Mar 20, 2018, at 10:10 PM, David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> > Can't say that I agree with your analysis about Davis Carl, but what seems almost certain is that with the election of Londrigan and Pritzger, we will have two more years of Davis and 4 more years of Rauner.
> > I will be voting for none of the above in the 13th Congressional race and the Governor's race.
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> > David J.
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> > Both the only anti-war candidate, David Gill, and the candidate of the 'intelligence community' [CIA et al.], pro-war Jon Ebel, seem to have been beaten in today's election for the Democratic nomination for Congress in Illinois' 13th Congressional district (with about 14% of the vote, each).
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> > But the winner, DNC candidate Betsy Dirksen Londrigan, is pro-war - and should be opposed. It seems the only way to do that is to support (and vote for) the Republican incumbent, Rodney Davis.
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> > Davis' predecessor, Republican Tim Johnson, was elected as a pro-war candidate. (I ran against him as a Green.) But in office, Tim changed his mind, and went so far as to join a suit against the illegal invasion of Libya.
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> > Given that we must oppose the Democratic party's continuing hysterical war provocations against Russia (and China) - from 'Russiagate on - AWARE should support Davis against a pro-war Democrat and urge him to follow his predecessor's example.
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> > —CGE
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