[Peace-discuss] interesting historical fact about the 13th district

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 00:39:56 UTC 2018


David is clearly right, but remember that Illinois was redistricted after the 2010 census.

Before that C-U was in the 15th Congressional District; since then, it’s in the 13th.

After running for Congress long ago (2002), I concluded that Congressional representatives should be elected not by district, but at large, by party list.

Thus, if the Democrats get 40% of the vote, they get 40% of the Congressional delegation (probably seven representatives, in Illinois); if the Greens and Libertarians each get 5% of the vote, they each get one.

Otherwise, gerrymandering is unavoidable, as the Supreme Court is revealing today: <https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/politics/supreme-court-elections-gerrymander.html <https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/politics/supreme-court-elections-gerrymander.html>>.

—CGE


> On Mar 28, 2018, at 11:32 AM, Germaine Light via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Interesting!
> Germaine
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> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:06 AM David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net <mailto:davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>> wrote:
> interesting historical fact about the 13th district
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> In the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections the district supported Bush over Gore and then Kerry by a 55% to 45 % margin both times.
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> In 2008, the year of the highest historical turnout for the district, Obama beat McCain by 54% to 46 %.
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> In 2012 , a year of a much lower voter turnout than 2008, Romney barely beat Obama by less than 1 % of the vote
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> In 2016 , Trump beat Clinton by 6 % of the vote.
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> In 2012 Davis beat Gill by less than 1 % of the vote in a three way race with a so called “ progressive independent “ who came out of know where to run and agreed with every single position Gill supported and ended up with 7 % of the vote.
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> The DNC/DCCC gave Gill no get out the vote money or staff because Gill refused to back away from his opposition to NAFTA and support for single payer. Also Gill beat Durbin’s boy in the Dem primary.
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> I still wonder who “persuaded “ ( bribed ) the “ progressive independent “ to run. He has since disappeared from all political activity.
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> My speculation is that it was either the Koch brothers who threw a ton of money that year behind Davis or it was the DNC.
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> I am inclined to think it was the Koch brothers but it could have very well been the DNC based on their historic pattern of throwing considerable time and resources against anti-corporate candidates in the Dem primaries, even when the anti-corporate Dem primary candidate had a better chance of winning against the republican in the general election. In essence the DNC would rather lose to a republican then have an anti-corporate Dem candidate get elected. Because for them ( DNC ) the maintaining and expansion of corporate neo-liberalism and their cash flow from corporate donors is the prime objective.
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> David J.
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