[Peace-discuss] AWARE demo, Saturday 2-4pm, downtown Champaign

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Fri May 4 13:33:59 UTC 2018


No, I never suggested that.

Vilifying representatives by making it personal, is a losing proposition, acting as an apologist for representatives is a losing proposition as well.

“Truth" without making it “personal” one way or the other is the best means. This is not truth given there is nothing “honorable” about war, killing, destroying, occupying, etc. and is what the US is known for doing. All the rest is fine.


On May 4, 2018, at 06:10, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com<mailto:cgestabrook at gmail.com>> wrote:

I thought you were particularly concerned with addressing people 'where they are.’

Americans generally oppose war-making, except in a good cause. We should make it clear that this isn’t.

—CGE


On May 4, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com<mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:

I have a problem with one sentence: “We must do more to save the honor of the United States and prevent this new criminal war.”

Save lives yes, but “honor” in respect to the US? Thats long gone, if ever.



On May 4, 2018, at 05:49, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

Flyer for the regular AWARE anti-war demonstration, Saturday 5 May, 2-4pm, at the corner of Main and Neil streets in downtown Champaign

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ISRAEL IS PUSHING THE U.S. TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN ~ WE SHOULDN’T LET IT HAPPEN

Fifteen years ago the U.S. government attacked Iraq and killed a million people - on the basis of lies that Iraq had dangerous “weapons of mass destruction.”

During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump talked of his opposition to the attack on Iraq:
“Look at the war in Iraq and the mess that we’re in. I would never have handled it that way ... What was the purpose of this whole thing? Hundreds and hundreds of young people killed. And what about the people coming back with no arms and legs? Not to mention the other side. All those Iraqi kids who’ve been blown to pieces. And it turns out that all of the reasons for the war were blatantly wrong. All this for nothing!”

A principal instigator of that shameful US war against Iraq was the government of Israel, who wished to remove Iraq as a regional rival in the Middle East.

Now Israel is trying to repeat that crime, urging the US to attack and kill Iranians.

But the US is part of a deal with Iran and six other countries that guarantees that Iran will not develop even one nuclear weapon. (The US has thousands; Israel has at least 200.)

The ‘Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action,’ known as the Iran nuclear deal, is an international agreement reached in Vienna on 14 July 2015 between Iran and the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council (China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States) plus Germany and the European Union.

President Trump threatens to withdraw from the deal on May 12. The Israeli government cheers, because they want the US to attack Iran, for their benefit.

In order to get its war on, Israel has attacked Iranian troops in Syria -- last week with a bombing that registered as a 2.6 earthquake on seismographs. An Israeli government advisor has all but admitted that killing Iranians in Syria is designed to provoke an open war with Iran. Meanwhile, Israeli snipers kill peaceful protesters in Gaza, including children and journalists.

We should not let the Trump administration be manipulated into war by Israel. The president and our Congressional representatives should be urged to remember the lessons of Iraq and not attack Iran - among other things a more populous and better armed country, with powerful allies, notably Russia and China. War with Iran risks a larger - even nuclear - war.

The largest anti-war demonstrations in history occurred before the US attacked Iraq. We must do more to save the honor of the United States and prevent this new criminal war. If the US and Israel attack Iran, there should be general work stoppages - strikes - and street demonstrations across the US.

In the meantime, write the president and our Congressional representatives:

President Donald Trump:
<https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/>
Representative Rodney Davis: <https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/>
Senator Tammy Duckworth: <https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/content/contact-senator>
Senator Dick Durbin:
<https://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact/email>

~

The ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT of Champaign-Urbana
on Facebook at <AWARE of Champaign-Urbana Illinois>
~ U.S. troops & weapons out of the Mideast
~ Medicare for all ~ Universal basic income ~

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