[Peace-discuss] Israeli influence…

[Karen Aram]

I think we all need to reread Marx’s “Das Kapital,” the answer to all, lies within. Imperialism, is the last stage of capitalism. 
Therefore, all those capitalists profiting from our imperialism are pulling the strings, and they range across the globe from the US, the KSA, Israel, Russia and China, and all the little nations within. They come in all colors, sizes.  They exist within Iran, Syria, Catalonia, etc.,etc. they are all contributors.

> On May 10, 2018, at 10:53, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> I think the Saker is often worth reading, but the asseveration that the crimes of the US government occur because “the USA is now quite literally run by a Zionist Occupation Government, no doubt about it whatsoever” (what I called “the higher anti-Semitism”) is not.
> 
> Of course, that has little to do with "associating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism."
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> Yes, I think people on this list should read the whole Saker article: http://thesaker.is/the-warmakers/
>> 
>> It may be overly sanguine about the resourcefulness and determination of Iran in what looks like an incipient war, but in my view it hits many right notes in its comprehensive analysis of the current events. 
>> 
>> As to the "higher antisemitism" supposedly displayed there, this ploy is redolent of associating anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. It does not reflect well on Carl Estabrook. 
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>> —mkb
>> 
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>>> On May 10, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Boyle, Francis A via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>>> That’s a good example of ‘the higher anti-semitsm’ (“the Jews made us do it”)
>>> It’s an absolute disgrace that Carl  accused Mort of being anti-semitic—the last refuge of a scoundrel.
>>> 
>>> fab
>>> 
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>>> From: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net> On Behalf Of Carl G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 11:24 AM
>>> To: Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu>
>>> Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Israeli influence…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 10, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Brussel, Morton K via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote (quoting The Saker),
>>> "Israel has now fully subjugated all the branches of the US government to its agents (the Neocons) and that they now run everything: from the two branches of the Uniparty to Congress, to the media and, now that Trump has abjectly caved in to all their demands, they also run the White House. They apparently also run the CIA, but there still might be some resistance to their lunacy in the Pentagon. The USA is now quite literally run by a Zionist Occupation Government, no doubt about it whatsoever.”
>>> 
>>> That’s a good example of ‘the higher anti-semitsm’ (“the Jews made us do it”) that exculpates the US from its political and military crimes: “...it leaves the US government untouched on its high pinnacle of nobility, 'Wilsonian idealism,' etc., merely in the grip of an all-powerful force that it cannot escape.” 
>>> 
>>> Stephen Zunes has rightly pointed out, “there are far more powerful interests that have a stake in what happens in the Persian Gulf region than does AIPAC [or the Lobby generally], such as the oil companies, the arms industry and other special interests whose lobbying influence and campaign contributions far surpass that of the much-vaunted Zionist lobby and its allied donors to congressional races.”
>>> 
>>> —CGE
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