[Peace-discuss] fyi

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Sun May 27 14:17:46 UTC 2018


Don’t be ridiculous. Population stabilizes with development and social justice.

People aren’t poor because they have too many children. People have too many children because they’re poor - an extended family in the only form of social security in societies lacking social justice. 


> On May 27, 2018, at 9:06 AM, David Enstrom via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> Che's remark shows an ignorance of the relationships between over population, individual suffering, environmental degradation and WAR.  
> Che clearly not a demographer.  
>  
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 8:51 AM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
> The US contraceptive and anti-natal policies were meant to reduce the population pressures for social justice in America’s semi-colonies, particularly in Latin America.
> 
> Hence Che’s remark.
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 27, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>> Fear of forced sterilization is not an excuse for preventing a woman’s choice over her body. In fact, forcing childbirth is little different from forced sterilization. Killing the unborn, we’re speaking of seeds and fetuses not babies, is not the same thing as killing children already born, living their lives. 
>> 
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>>> On May 27, 2018, at 03:45, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The US has long sponsored contraceptive and anti-natal policies in Latin America. (Not, for the most part, so brutally as Israel’s sterilization programs for Bedouins, African refugees, etc.)
>>> 
>>> Che Guevara is supposed to have attacked those programs by saying, “It’s easier to kill a guerrilla in the womb than in the hills."  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 26, 2018, at 11:10 PM, David Enstrom via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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>>>> https://theintercept.com/2018/05/26/uganda-american-aid-birth-control/ <https://theintercept.com/2018/05/26/uganda-american-aid-birth-control/>
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