[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical"

Thu Sep 6 14:15:19 UTC 2018

Yes, all of that is certainly true.

In particular, Kavanaugh's public statement that the Nixon case was
"wrongly decided" is extremely troubling.

According to the New York Times yesterday, "senior Trump Administration
officials" are bragging that they are "saving us from Trump"
by counter-manding his orders. But these unelected and unnamed officials
are unilaterally deciding what to counter-mand and what to enable. This is
not democracy or constitutional government. The President - this president
or any other- should be constrained according to the Constitution, by the
other branches of government, not by unnamed and unelected and
unaccountable executive branch officials. But apparently Kavanaugh doesn't
believe in that, and that is very, very bad.

Kavanaugh apparently believes that this president and any other are above
the law as long as they remain in office, and that the only remedy is
impeachment. Impeachment is fine but, being extremely difficult, it should
not be the only remedy; and under the Constitution as written, it is not
the only remedy.

Robert Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
(202) 448-2898 x1

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:21 AM, Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> My purpose in forwarding the email from Robert Weissman/Public Citizen was
> to emphasize there are other objections to Kavanaugh's appointment besides
> the RvW issue.  Defenders on both sides of the issue seem to be focused on
> just one.  (He gave a very good interview yesterday on Democracy Now).
>
> Midge
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> To: Anne Parkinson <bjornsona at ameritech.net>
> Cc: naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>; peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss <
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> Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:03 am
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes
> areAstronomical"
>
> Anne, its called “How to kill the Peace movement.”
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2018, at 08:16, Anne Parkinson <bjornsona at ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you
> out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose
> an anti-racism forum.
>
> Quotes do not excuse you.
>
> Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about.
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
>
> it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger
> babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this
> carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly,
> racist.
>
> one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like
> Francis Boil.  i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to
> the right to kill babies is evil.
> it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate.  but
> saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special
> interest.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Wrote:
>
> Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the
> battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for
> good people to remain silent.  That point has been well proven.
> Deb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of
> Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)?  (I'll try forwarding it)
>
> Midge
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Naiman via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net>
> To: Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com>
> Cc: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are
> Astronomical"
>
>
> Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax?
>
> Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is
> expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate.
> Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the
> "stakes" are zero.
>
> Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense?
>
> Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties?
>
> Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention
> on it?
>
>
>
> Robert Naiman
> Policy Director
> Just Foreign Policy
> www.justforeignpolicy.org
> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> (202) 448-2898 x1
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>
> I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you.
>
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c.
> 18 BC)
>
> = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of
> his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is
> only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh.
>
> https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I
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>
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s
> lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in
> civilized countries.
>
> It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics
> program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time
> Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly
> growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of."
>
> It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other
> social supports. —CGE
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter]
>
>
> FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu
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> Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois
> College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are
> Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle
> Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats
> will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under
> cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis
> Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois.
>
> “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You
> need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the
> jugular.'
>
> "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate
> Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal
> establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a
> lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ...
>
> "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are
> planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday.
>
> "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to
> ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of
> saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it
> tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.'
>
> "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage
> Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme
> Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a
> legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier
> for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make
> the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be
> bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for
> women.'"
>
> See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society."
>
> For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
> Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020
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> September 4, 2018
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