[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Flyer for tomorrow's AWARE demo

Sat Apr 6 16:00:58 UTC 2019

Thanks.

There are those Marxist-Leninists who oppose improvement in the condition of the working class under capitalism on the notion that it retards revolutionary consciousness.

“Worse is better,” they think, because it brings us closer to revolution. 

They’re opposed from the left (libertarian socialists et al.), who seem to me to have the better of the argument. —CGE

> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Carl, I agree, its a social service that is very necessary and one I would love, personally. That extra $1,000 in my pocket every month would clear out my credit card debt which is exploding. It would take people off the streets, and allow them to eat. 
> However, when looking at the broader picture, there are concerns such as those I mentioned. It does need to be considered, debated with a real critique of future consequences. I also note those promoting it now, are also those promoting AI, because they as we, know, its just a matter of time when so many people will be put out of work. 
> 
> Good NFN, I’m listening to it now. 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 08:27, C G Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> UBI is a reasonable and achievable demand, as social security and Medicare were in earlier generations.  Steps toward it are being taken elsewhere.
>> See <https://www.rdwolff.com/jrider/what_are_your_views_on_universal_basic_income>.
>> 
>> The Democrat party destroyed an earlier attempt to provide a guaranteed annual income:
>> see "Maximum Feasible Misunderstanding: Community Action in the War on Poverty” (1969) by Daniel P. Moynihan
>> <https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/maximum-feasible-misunderstanding-community-action-in-the-war-on-poverty-by-daniel-p-moynihan/>.
>> 
>> The construction of Neoliberalism in the 1970s was an attempt to forestall such a thing.  —CGE
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:17 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Carl
>>> 
>>> Two things bother me, in an otherwise excellent, comprehensive flyer: 
>>> 
>>> 1) Israel placed in the context of not being the greatest purveyor of violence along with China, Russia and Iran. 
>>> 
>>> China, Russia and Iran need to be mentioned because the USG and mainstream media would have us believe they are, when its us. but Israel? 
>>> 
>>> The USG supports Israel. Does the mainstream media as a result vilify them? Israel byway of AIPAC has bought off our government Representatives, they have Americans now obedient in respect to BDS. 
>>> 
>>> The American people, primarily the young, now recognize Israel as a US ally, along with the KSA, responsible for war crimes. Why have AWARE defend them?
>>> 
>>> 2) UBI, included with that which should be provided to the American people, along with Single Payer Health Care, and Free College Education. Do all with AWARE support UBI? While it has many positives, I would love it personally, but most on the “left” do not support it for a reason. It’s a Trojan horse buying off mass movements and socialism, it will put many people out of work, all those government employees providing social services, plus its supported by the (right) Republican politicians, do we of AWARE really wish to identify with Milton Friedman, Nixon, or current politician/Presidential candidate Andrew Yang, who is now promoting it as part of his platform?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 18:48, C G Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [Flyer to be distributed at the monthly AWARE demonstration, 2-4pm Saturday 6 April 2019, Susan B. Anthony Memorial (Main and Neil) Champaign]
>>>> 
>>>> WHILE WE ARE PREOCCUPIED WITH PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS,
>>>> OUR GOVERNMENT IS KILLING PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD 
>>>> ==============================================
>>>> International polls show that it is the United States - not Russia, China, Iran, or Israel - that is by far the most feared government in the world. The wars the US is waging in eight countries, and its war provocations against Russia and China, risk a wider - even nuclear - war.
>>>> 
>>>> ~ Although most Americans are not aware of it, the US government is today making war - killing people - in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen. They’re doing so principally to control the flow of oil out of the Mideast and North Africa, which the US uses as a weapon against its economic rivals from Germany to China.
>>>> ~ The ongoing US drone assassination program - called “the most extreme terrorist campaign of modern times” - has killed thousands of people (most of them not the presumed targets), including American citizens and hundreds of children.
>>>> ~ More than a quarter of a million American troops are stationed in a thousand US bases on foreign soil, most of them surrounding Russia and China.
>>>> ~ The 70,000 US troops in the ‘Special Operations Command’ are active in three-quarters of the countries of the world. Their activities have included kidnapping (the US government calls it ‘rendition’), torture, and murder. 
>>>> ~ The US is torturing the people of Venezuela - the country with the world’s largest reserve of oil - in order to overthrow their government, which isn’t following orders from Washington.
>>>> Since 1945 the United States has killed between 20 and 30 million people in wars (in Korea, Vietnam, Latin America, the Mideast, and elsewhere) designed to maintain the world-wide economic dominance that the US inherited at the end of World War II - for the American 1%.
>>>> 
>>>> It is unfortunately the basis of US foreign policy to use war and the threats of war to retard the economic development of Russia and China as competitors to American control of the world economy - from US support for a fascist coup in Ukraine to US naval provocations in the South China Sea and huge NATO military exercises in eastern Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> The rest of the world recognizes that the US government is what Martin Luther King called it long ago - “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today.”
>>>> 
>>>> With other peace groups around the world, we call upon the president and our government to close all foreign military bases, bring all US troops (and weapons) home, and provide social supports - including free medical care, education, and a universal basic income - for Americans, who have been made poorer by generations of our government’s wars.
>>>> ~~~
>>>> AWARE, the ANTI-WAR ANTI-RACISM EFFORT 
>>>> (on Facebook at <AWARE of Champaign-Urbana Illinois>)
>>>> 
>>>> Write our representatives in Congress and demand US troops and weapons out of the Mideast 
>>>> ~ universal basic income ~ free education thru college ~ Medicare for all
>>>> 
>>>> Senator Dick Durbin: <https://www.durbin.senate.gov/contact/email>
>>>> Senator Tammy Duckworth: <https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/content/contact-senator>
>>>> Representative Rodney Davis: <https://rodneydavis.house.gov/contact/>
>>>> 
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