[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Trump in Afghanistan

[C. G. Estabrook]

The people who are most opposed to making a deal that would see US troops withdrawn from Afghanistan are the neocons/CIA/Democrats who want to maintain the US policy of war and war provocations  against Russia and China. They’re afraid that Trump will make such a deal and interfere with belligerent US policy: that’s why he has to be removed.

The US originally sent jihadists into Afghanistan in the Carter adminstrtion “to give the Russians a Vietnam of their own," as Z. Brzezinski said. (The Obama administration tried the same thing in Syria.) See <https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/>.

The US invasion in October of 2001 was ostensibly to get Bin Laden, so the Afghan government offered to deliver hm to a third country for trial, but the US didn’t take up the offer. Again, the US goal was not Bin Laden, but Russia.

—CGE


> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:39 AM, John W. via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 6:49 AM Mildred O'brien via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm sick of  "let's make a deal."  The only "deal" the wheeler-dealer wants to make is HIS deal--which he will re-neg whenever he feel's like it (and then deny he ever did the deal in the first place).
> 
> mo'b
> 
> Amen, mo'b!!
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> To: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Cc: Peace <peace at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 28, 2019 7:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Trump in Afghanistan
> 
> [FT] Trump says talks with Taliban have resumed
> US president Donald Trump said peace talks with the Taliban had resumed 
> as he made an unannounced visit to Afghanistan on Thanksgiving, 
> appearing at a US air force base alongside Afghan president Ashraf Ghani.
> 
> Following a meeting with Mr Ghani, Mr Trump told reporters that the Taliban
> “wants to make a deal” and that US officials were “meeting with them”.
> 
> 
> > On Nov 28, 2019, at 7:41 PM, C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com> wrote:
> > 
> > WSJ: "Trump Says Taliban Peace Talks to Resume During Surprise Afghanistan Visit” 
> > <https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-makes-surprise-visit-to-afghanistan-11574968770?mod=hp_lead_pos1>
> > 
> > In the early 1960's, some US military would say of Kennedy's attack on South Vietnam, "It's a dirty little war - but it's the only war we've got.”
> > 
> > Today, thanks most recently to Obama - the first US president to be at war throughout two presidential terms - they needn't say that about Afghanistan: he's left seven others to choose from, having attacked Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, the Philippines, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen as well.
> > 
> > But the permanent government (notably Democrat ‘liberals’) insist on removing Trump for fear he'll end the killing in Afghanistan and elsewhere…
> > 
> > —CGE
> > 
> 
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