[Peace-discuss] [Peace] News from Neptune #443 notes

Sun Dec 15 17:32:30 UTC 2019

Again, I always enjoy the discussion taking place on NFN. Nonetheless I find the continuing conversation related to the Trump impeachment and the assumption it is being done by the Democrats because they fear his “anti-war stance,” due to what he said as a candidate,” boring. 

I’m convinced the Dems know very well they won’t remove Trump from office, their goal being, anything to defeat him or any Republican in the next election as worth doing, and using it to further vilify Russia, and paint a portrait of Ukraine as a worthy ally makes it worth their while, in spite of the lack of evidence presented, obvious to those watching closely.

 Impeachment related to the issue they chose to use is nonsense compared to the many crimes committed by both Party Administrations over the years, thus making this impeachment almost a joke, if it didn’t involve the attention of so many Americans, keeping them ignorant of important issues needing to be addressed. 

While I agree with David’s analysis of local, and Jewish organizations failure to address a major issue, that of Israeli barbarism, while focusing only on concerns related to domestic issues of immigration or racism superficially, rather than applying a deeper analysis, examining cause and effect, then offering solutions, to be of little consequence. David himself admits is  “trivial.” It’s trivial in that it negates the good works these groups do and therefore doesn’t really get the point across to most people viewing issues superficially thus placing them on the defense. I’m not Jewish so perhaps unlike David I don’t take it personally or apply greater expectations to those who aren’t really interested in what happens to those not in my nation, ignoring what my nation does to others elsewhere in the world. I’m referring to the 47 million Muslims killed since 9/11, in our wars against terrorism, of which David refers often. However, in relation to this is a most important point brought up by David, is that anti-semitism is more likely in the US now, as a result of the barbarism of Israel, and the Trump Administration’s recent policy initiatives related to Israel and “anti-semitism” in the US.

Anti-semitism is rising in Europe, specifically Germany and Ukraine, primarily due to economics, and imperialism, with the US directly responsible for promoting Nazi’s to power in Ukraine in 2014. 

Very important information related is the little noticed new “Nafta/trade deal with Canada.” One might refer to it as the new TPP, the original having failed under the Obama Administration, though Trump gets credit for abandoning, but as usual anything defeated that the capitalist elites want imposed, comes back rebranded. It matters not which Party is in power. 

> On Dec 14, 2019, at 15:55, J.B. Nicholson via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> News from Neptune #443
> A "My Back Pages" edition
> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nexp4s5ZHR8
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> A list of links to references made on the show.
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> John Maynard Keynes "The Economic Consequences of Peace"
> ISBN-10: 1298792835
> ISBN-13: 978-1298792839
> Possibly complete text: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23749238_The_Economic_Consequences_Of_Peace_In_The_Middle_East
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> Bob Dylan's "My Back Pages"
> Audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtDbbO2OLHY
> Lyrics: https://www.metrolyrics.com/my-back-pages-lyrics-bob-dylan.html
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> The Byrds' "My Back Pages"
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h80l4XIPJC4
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> Boris Johnson's win
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK8wdjG_gFY -- Outcome coverage summary (RT)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2K_HJ-Jc1s -- CrossTalk (RT) discussion
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> Michael Roberts' blog "The Next Recession"
> https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/
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> Michael Roberts on "Get Brexit Done!"
> https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/12/13/get-brexit-done/
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> What Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn say about secret US/UK talks about the NHS.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTffUvBFZs -- UK Prime Minister and leader of the Conservative Party Boris Johnson said:
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>> Boris Johnson: We are absolutely resolved that there will be no sale of the NHS, no privatisation, the NHS is not on the table in any way.
>> Questioner: Not drug patents?
>> Boris Johnson: In no way, the NHS is in no way on the table, in no aspect whatever and this, as I say, is continually brought up by the Labour Party as a diversionary tactic from the difficulties they are encountering particularly over the problem about leadership on anti-Semitism and then the great vacuity about their policy on Brexit, nobody knows what side Mr. Corbyn would come down on, in fact he said he's going to be neutral so you're left wondering what the point is of his doing this deal.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wTwu0zl1XQ -- Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn said:
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>> Jeremy Corbyn: If you watch the first TV debate between me and Boris Johnson you'll have seen me hold up these censored, blacked-out reports [Corbyn held up a hardcopy of censored blacked-out reports]. Pages and pages of censored blacked-out reports of secret US and UK talks about breaking open our NHS to US corporations and thus driving up the cost
>> of medicines. What I have here [Corbyn unzipped a black case holding a hardcopy of a document which he removed from the case and then held up] is something I can reveal to you. 451 pages of unredacted documents and
>> information, all of it here [people dressed in scrubs handed out copies
>> of a document to people assembled in the hall where Corbyn was speaking]. His [Boris Johnson's] government released this [presumably
>> was holding the censored document], we [the Labour Party] have since released this [presumably holding the uncensored document] which is a very different version of events. Perhaps he would like to explain why these documents confirm the US is demanding the NHS is on the table in the trade talks. These uncensored documents leave Boris Johnson's denials in absolute tatters. Voters need to ask themselves some very serious questions. Is the NHS safe in Boris Johnson's hands?
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> Taft–Hartley Act
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft-Hartley
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> National Labor Relations Act of 1935
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Labor_Relations_Act_of_1935
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> Selling Free Enterprise: The Business Assault on Labor and Liberalism, 1945-60 by Elizabeth A. Fones-Wolf
> ISBN-10: 0252064399
> ISBN-13: 978-0252064395
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> Palmer Raids
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmer_Raids
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> Thomas Edsall on "Trump Has a Gift for Tearing Us Apart"
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/opinion/trump-immigration.html
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> Steven H. Woolf, MD & Heidi Schoomaker on "Life Expectancy and Mortality Rates in the United States, 1959-2017"
> https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2756187
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> Peter Strzok & Lisa Page
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Strzok
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> Carter Page
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page
> Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOzRVoPE94 -- Jimmy Dore on the Inspector General report indicating how the FBI lied to the FISA court about Carter Page working for the CIA and how Page now has a good reason to sue the FBI and win.
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> Jeffrey St. Clair on "Roaming Charges: That’s Neoliberalism for You"
> https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12/13/roaming-charges-thats-neoliberalism-for-you/
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> Sergei and Yulia Skripal poisoning
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Sergei_and_Yulia_Skripal
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> Pres. Trump's recent executive order
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-sign-executive-order-targeting-college-anti-semitism-israel-boycotts-n1099601
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> Steven Salaita on "Renouncing Israel on Principle"
> https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12/12/renouncing-israel-on-principle/
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> Jim Dey
> https://www.news-gazette.com/users/profile/jim%20dey/
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> J.B. Nicholson notes
> https://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace/2019-December/015481.html
> https://lists.chambana.net/pipermail/peace-discuss/2019-December/051688.html
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> -J
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