[Peace-discuss] NFN

C. G. Estabrook carl at newsfromneptune.com
Sun Dec 29 02:34:35 UTC 2019


The SPD was a self-proclaimed socialist party. "Established in 1863, the SPD is by far the oldest existing political party represented in the German Parliament and was one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world. It was illegal under the Anti-Socialist Laws from 1878 to 1890. During the First World War, the party split into a pro-war mainstream and the pacifist Independent Social Democratic Party, a part of which went on to form the Communist Party of Germany. The social democrats came to power during the 1918–19 revolution. During the Weimar Republic, the SPD was the strongest party until 1932 and Friedrich Ebert served as the first President of Germany. During the Nazi era (1933–45), the SPD was banned, and social democrats offered resistance against Hitler's dictatorship...

"After the SPD supported German involvement in World War I in 1915, Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht co-founded the anti-war Spartacus League (Spartakusbund) which eventually became the KPD. During the November Revolution, she co-founded the newspaper Die Rote Fahne (The Red Flag), the central organ of the Spartacist movement. Luxemburg considered the Spartacist uprising of January 1919 a blunder, but supported the attempted overthrow of the government and rejected any attempt at a negotiated solution. Friedrich Ebert's majority SPD government crushed the revolt and the Spartakusbund by sending in the Freikorps, government-sponsored paramilitary groups consisting mostly of World War I veterans. Freikorps troops captured and summarily executed Luxemburg and Liebknecht during the rebellion. Luxemburg's body was thrown in the Landwehr Canal in Berlin.” Wikipedia

See now <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jan/09/the-murder-of-rosa-luxemburg-by-klaus-gietinger-review>.


> On Dec 28, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Excellent program, some of my thoughts:
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> Carl, I thought it was clarified that Rosa Luxemberg was murdered by the Social Democrats of Germany? I do think that needs to be clarified as was suggested previously by David Johnson.
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> Howie Hawkins support for “russiagate,” is the reason many of us identifying as Greens, have difficulty supporting him for President. H.H. has a long admirable record as a labor leader, its said, he introduced the Green New Deal, I thought it was Ralph Nader, However if he is so ignorant of foreign policy issues, which includes US propaganda, then he should not be the Presidential candidate for the Green Party. 
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> I’m pleased to see positive reference of the WSWS.Org. as I have been supportive of them, generally speaking, for years but felt quite isolated in this respect. 
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> I know little if nothing about the problems related to Unit 4, but I loved David’s letter because it addressed the issue with analysis that could be and should be applied to so many issues we are dealing with. Identity Politics, becomes a worn label, but liberalism focusing on social problems has us running around like chicken little, screaming “discrimination,” when in fact the sky really is falling. 
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>  In Thailand, given Thai Buddhism is very tolerant, discrimination against gays and trans appears not to exist, primarily due to well known privileged elites being known gays or trans. At first glance it appears admirable, but upon close examination one sees the awful destruction, and ruined lives of those gays and trans being exploited, because they are  poor. 
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