[Peace-discuss] Fwd: [New post] Tulsi Gabbard Is Driving The MSM Bat Shit Crazy

Fri Feb 8 10:17:09 UTC 2019

This is a very nice piece.

I strongly encourage folks to watch the interview for themselves.

My takeaway from watching the interview was that because Gabbard knew what
she was talking about, kept her cool, and stood her ground, and because
there was a modicum of fairness in terms of allowing her to speak and not
talking over her, even though they were going after her, she held her
ground and did fine. I'd be curious to see what would happen if they did
focus groups or whatever where people who are not totally committed to a
view of Gabbard or the content give their reactions. But watching the
interview made me hopeful, in the sense that if Gabbard can hold her ground
at MSNBC, which is like the Death Star in terms of shameless pro-war media,
if the rest of the media treat her at least as fairly she's going to be
fine.

Which is not saying that she's going to win. Just saying that, if that's
the prologue, maybe we can have a normal debate, where people get to say
different ideas and people get to choose which ideas they like the best,
without somebody telling them that some ideas aren't allowed.

===

Robert Reuel Naiman
Policy Director
Just Foreign Policy
www.justforeignpolicy.org
naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
(202) 448-2898 x1

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 2:47 AM C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

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> *From:* Caitlin Johnstone <donotreply at wordpress.com>
> *Date:* February 6, 2019 at 10:11:00 PM EST
> *To:* cgestabrook at gmail.com
> *Subject:* *[New post] Tulsi Gabbard Is Driving The MSM Bat Shit Crazy*
>
> Caitlin Johnstone posted: "When Tulsi Gabbard announced her plans to run
> in the 2020 presidential election, I predicted that it would disrupt war
> propaganda narratives and force a much-needed conversation about US
> interventionism, but I didn't realize that it would happen so quickl"
>
> New post on *Caitlin Johnstone*
> <https://caitlinjohnstone.com/?author=2> Tulsi Gabbard Is Driving The MSM
> Bat Shit Crazy
> <https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/02/07/tulsi-gabbard-is-driving-the-msm-bat-shit-crazy/> by
> Caitlin Johnstone <https://caitlinjohnstone.com/?author=2>
>
> When Tulsi Gabbard announced her plans to run in the 2020 presidential
> election, I predicted
> <https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/five-reasons-im-excited-about-tulsi-gabbard-s-candidacy-3eb8807351a9>
> that it would disrupt war propaganda narratives and force a much-needed
> conversation about US interventionism, but I didn't realize that it would
> happen so quickly, so ubiquitously, and so explosively. Gabbard officially
> began her campaign for president a mere three days ago
> <https://youtu.be/fMllW6PJH_s>, and already she's become the front line
> upon which the debate about US warmongering is happening. Even if you
> oppose Gabbard's run for the presidency, this should be self-evident to you
> by now.
>
> This dynamic became more apparent than ever today in Gabbard's appearance
> on MSNBC's *Morning Joe*
> <https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/rep-gabbard-assad-is-not-an-enemy-of-the-us-1438093891865>,
> hosted by spouses Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. It should here be
> noted since we're talking about war propaganda that in 2009 Scarborough turned
> down an easy run for the US Senate because he decided that he could have
> more influence on public policy
> <http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20090209/question-morning-joe-or-sen-joe> as
> the host of *Morning Joe* than he could as one of 100 US senators, which
> tells you everything you need to know about why I focus more on US mass
> media propaganda than I do on US politics. It should also be noted
> that Brzezinski is the daughter of the late Carter administration cold
> warrior Zbigniew Brzezinski
> <https://www.thenation.com/article/zbigniew-brzezinski-cold-war-biography/>,
> whose influential ideas
> <https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-story-of-zbigniew-brzezinski-that-the-media-isnt-telling/5593085>
> about US world domination, arming extremist factions
> <https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/05/29/zbig-m29.html> to advance US
> interests, and hawkish agendas against Russia continue to infect US foreign
> policy to this day. Mika is part of a political dynasty, with both
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Brzezinski> brothers
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Brzezinski> being US political
> insiders as well.
>
> So if you've ever wondered how outlets like MSNBC keep everyone on message
> and fully in alignment with the US war machine's agendas, there's a good
> insight into how. Combine that with the way they stock their punditry
> lineup
> <https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/mainstream-media-outlets-keep-hiring-cia-intel-veterans-and-its-gross-62490d866362>
> with US intelligence community insiders and fire any pundit
> <https://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/21/phil_donahue_on_his_2003_firing>
> who refuses to toe the military-industrial complex line, and it's not hard
> to see how they've developed such a tight echo chamber of hostility toward
> any resistance to US interventionism. Which explains what we're about to
> discuss next.
>
> The journalist interrogating Tulsi seems to believe that US forces in
> Syria are fighting Assad. Tulsi corrects her, says those troops were
> deployed there to fight ISIS. These people don’t even know what’s happening
> in the places they want the US to occupy pic.twitter.com/YWIbSVqePA
> <https://t.co/YWIbSVqePA>
>
> — Rania Khalek (@RaniaKhalek) February 6, 2019
> <https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1093180256213762049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
>
> Morning Joe's pile-on against Gabbard began when the subject of Syria
> came up <https://twitter.com/walid970721/status/1093250963798982670>, and
> panelist Kasie Hunt instantly began losing her shit.
>
> "Do you think Assad is our enemy?" Hunt interrupted during Gabbard's
> response to a question about her meeting with Syria's president in 2017,
> her voice and face both strained with emotion.
>
> "Assad is not the enemy of the United States because Syria does not pose a
> direct threat to the United States," Gabbard replied.
>
> "What do you say to Democratic voters who watched you go over there, and
> what do you say to military members who have been deployed repeatedly in
> Syria pushing back against Assad?" Hunt replied, somehow believing that US
> soldiers are in Syria fighting against the Syrian government, which would
> probably come as a shock to the troops who've been told that they are there
> to defeat ISIS.
>
> Journalist Rania Khalek summed up this insanity perfectly, tweeting
> <https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1093180256213762049>, "The
> journalist interrogating Tulsi seems to believe that US forces in Syria are
> fighting Assad. Tulsi corrects her, says those troops were deployed there
> to fight ISIS. These people don’t even know what’s happening in the places
> they want the US to occupy."
>
> "This is such an embarrassing look at the state of corporate American
> regime media," tweeted
> <https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1093205826884513792> journalist
> Max Blumenthal. "@kasie doesn’t know the most basic facts about Syria and
> along with the smug co-hosts, doesn’t care to learn."
>
> This is such an embarrassing look at the state of corporate American
> regime media. @kasie <https://twitter.com/kasie?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> doesn’t know the most basic facts about Syria and along with the smug
> co-hosts, doesn’t care to learn. https://t.co/dEfJbVEcaD
>
> — Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) February 6, 2019
> <https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1093205826884513792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
>
> And it didn't get any better from there. After Gabbard took some time to
> explain to a professional cable news reporter the basic fundamentals of the
> US military's official involvement in Syria, Scarborough interjected to ask
> if Assad isn't an enemy, would Gabbard at least concede that he is "an
> *adversary* of the United States."
>
> Whatever the fuck that means. What Assad is is the leader of a sovereign
> nation which has nothing to do with the United States and isn't taking
> anything from or harming the United States in any way.
>
> Scarborough and Gabbard went back and forth about this stupid, nonsensical
> question before Brzezinski interjected to ask "So what would you say he is
> to the United States? If you cannot say that he’s an adversary or an enemy,
> what is Assad to the U.S.? What is the word?"
>
> "You can describe it however you want to describe it," Gabbard responded,
> explaining that whether a nation is adversarial or not comes down to
> whether or not they are working against US interests.
>
> "Are Assad's interests aligned with ours?" asked Hunt.
>
> "What are Assad's interests?" Gabbard countered.
>
> "Assad seems interested primarily in the slaughter of his own people,"
> Hunt replied with a straight face.
>
> "Survival," Scarborough interjected, trying to save his colleague some
> embarrassment with a less insane response to the question of Assad's
> interests.
>
> Other bat shit crazy questions Gabbard was asked during her appearance
> <https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/rep-gabbard-assad-is-not-an-enemy-of-the-us-1438093891865>
> include the following:
>
> "You know there are people who will watch this have heard your previous
> comments who will wonder, what's going on here? Why you met with Assad, why
> it looks like you were very cozy with Assad and why you've sort of taken
> his side in this argument. What would you say to that?"
>
> "Do you think that Assad is a good person?"
>
> "Your hometown paper said that you should focus on your job and talked
> about your presidential campaign being in disarray. How would you respond
> to your hometown paper?"
>
> "Any idea why David Duke came out and supported you?"
>
> "There have been reports that that Russian apparatus that interfered in
> 2016 is potentially trying to help your campaign. Why do you think that is?"
>
> "Have you met with any Russians over the past several years?"
>
> Here is ⁦@NBCNews <https://twitter.com/NBCNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>⁩’
> excellent reporting on the Russian machine that now appears to be boosting
> Tulsi Gabbard https://t.co/QuJRuEQHOm
>
> — Kasie Hunt (@kasie) February 6, 2019
> <https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1093149171782172673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
>
> Gabbard shoved back against the various accusations of alignment with
> Trump, Putin and Assad, asserting correctly
> <https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/why-all-anti-interventionists-will-necessarily-be-smeared-as-russian-assets-cb9b051951cf>
> that those lines are only being used to smear anyone who voices an
> objection to endless war and insane nuclear escalations. She pushed back
> particularly hard on Kasie Hunt's reference to the obscene NBC smear piece
> which cited the discredited narrative control firm New Knowledge to paint
> Gabbard as a favorite of the Kremlin, claiming that the article has been
> thoroughly debunked (and it has
> <https://theintercept.com/2019/02/03/nbc-news-to-claim-russia-supports-tulsi-gabbard-relies-on-firm-just-caught-fabricating-russia-data-for-the-democratic-party/>
> ).
>
> After the show, still unable to contain herself, Hunt jumped onto Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1093149171782172673> to share the
> discredited NBC smear piece, writing, "Here is @NBCNews' excellent
> reporting on the Russian machine that now appears to be boosting Tulsi
> Gabbard."
>
> Hunt then followed up with a link
> <https://twitter.com/kasie/status/1093149597181059072> to an RT article
> which she captioned with an outright lie: "Here is the 'debunking' of the
> NBC News report from RT, the Russian state media. You tell me which you
> think is more credible."
>
> I say that Hunt is lying because the RT article
> <https://www.rt.com/usa/450613-nbc-gabbard-new-knowledge-smear/> that she
> shared to falsely claim that the only objection to NBC's smear piece came
> from Russia explicitly names an *Intercept* article
> <https://theintercept.com/2019/02/03/nbc-news-to-claim-russia-supports-tulsi-gabbard-relies-on-firm-just-caught-fabricating-russia-data-for-the-democratic-party/>
> by American journalist Glenn Greenwald, upon which the RT article is based
> and which does indeed thoroughly discredit the NBC smear piece. If Hunt had
> read the article that she shared, she necessarily would have know that, so
> she was either lying about the nature of the article she shared or lying
> about knowing what was in it.
>
> MSNBC defended @nbcnews <https://twitter.com/NBCNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> fraudulent "report" which was based on a "discredited cyber security firm
> recently kicked off Facebook for unethical MEDDLING of a state election.”
> Shameful "journalism." https://t.co/YjGSKKE6oR
>
> — Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) February 7, 2019
> <https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1093322804664115200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
>
> So that was nuts. We can expect to see a whole, whole lot more of this as
> the plutocratic media works overtime to undermine Gabbard's message in
> order to keep her from disrupting establishment war narratives, and I'm
> pleased as punch to see Gabbard firing back and calling them out for the
> sleazy war propagandists that they are. Her presidential campaign is
> shaking the foundations of the establishment narrative control matrix more
> than anything else that's going on right now, so it looks like writing
> about these embarrassing mass media debacles she's been provoking may be a
> big part of my job in the coming months.
>
> Military interventionism is by far the most depraved and destructive
> aspect of the US-centralized power establishment, and it is also the most
> lucrative and strategically crucial, which is why so much energy is poured
> into ensuring that the American people don't use the power of their numbers
> to force that interventionism to end. Anyone who throws a monkey wrench in
> the works of this propaganda machine is going to be subjected to a
> tremendous amount of smears, and I'm glad to see Gabbard fighting back
> against those smears. From personal experience I know that smear campaigns
> must be fought against ferociously, because the only alternative is to
> allow your detractors to control the narrative about you, which as far as
> your message goes is the same as allowing them to control you. It's not
> fun, it's not clean, but it's necessary.
>
> The narrative control war keeps getting hotter and hotter, ladies and
> gentlemen. Buckle up.
>
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