[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Mueller madness (fill out your bracket)

C G Estabrook cgestabrook at gmail.com
Wed Mar 27 15:10:42 UTC 2019


Neoconservatism took its rise a half-century ago among American liberal partisans of Israel (often former Trotskyists), frightened that the anti-Vietnam war movement (by 1969 about 70% of the public had come to regard the war as “fundamentally wrong and immoral,” not “a mistake,” largely as a result of the impact of student protest on general consciousness) would lessen American willingness to fight for the expansion of Israel. 

"Historically speaking, the term ‘neoconservative' refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left to the camp of American conservatism during the 1960s and 1970s. The movement had its intellectual roots in the Jewish monthly review magazine Commentary, edited by Norman Podhoretz and published by the American Jewish Committee. They spoke out against the New Left and in that way helped define the movement.” Wikipedia.



> On Mar 27, 2019, at 9:36 AM, C. G. Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Neocons (in both parties) are the fronts in government, the press, and the academy for "an utterly corrupt and immoral military/security complex determined to protect its $1,000 billion annual budget and the power that goes with it from the loss of its Russian enemy to normalized relations; [it includes] Hillary’s DNC…”
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> See <https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/03/25/now-we-will-find-out-if-trump-is-really-the-president-or-merely-a-figurehead/>.
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> After attacking them in the campaign, Trump has brought them into his administration, perhaps on the LBJ theory that it’s better to have them inside the tent pissing out that the other way around…
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>> On Mar 27, 2019, at 8:50 AM, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 8:34 AM David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Neo-Con war mongers are bi-partisan John.
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>> So I'm told.   Did Pompeo and Bolton, then, concoct the smear against the Prince of Peace, Donald J. Trump?  Are they the ones who invented Russiagate out of whole cloth?
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>> From: Peace-discuss [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of John W. via Peace-discuss
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>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:28 AM
>> To: C. G. Estabrook
>> Cc: Peace-discuss; C. G. Estabrook
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Mueller madness (fill out your bracket)
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>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:41 AM C. G. Estabrook <cgestabrook at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Warmongers like Pompeo and Bolton.
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>> Right.  And they're Republicans, are they not?  Trump's Republicans, in point of fact?
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>> Now I'm even MORE confused.  :-(
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>> On Mar 27, 2019, at 1:16 AM, John W. via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:14 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> https://nypost.com/2019/03/25/mueller-madness-the-media-pundits-who-got-it-most-wrong/
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>> Amidst all the fun, it's worthwhile remembering why the US political establishment concocted this smear against Trump: they were desperately afraid he would reduce the Obama administration's wars and war provocations, which were designed to prevent the emergence of Russia and China as what Brzezinski called 'peer competitors' for US economic hegemony.
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>> That fear has subsided, as the neocons are back in control.
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>> Wait, Carl.  Who are the neocons again?  Please remind me.
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>> —CGE
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