[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Robert Reich’s letter to ‘MoveOn’ CORRECTED

Debra Schrishuhn deb.pdamerica at gmail.com
Wed Nov 27 13:15:04 UTC 2019


First, I won't be drawn into a round of "whataboutism." Second, to insist
that the issues of U.S. policy by and character of the chief elected
officer are mutually exclusive is both naive and disingenuous.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:47 AM C. G. Estabrook <carl at newsfromneptune.com>
wrote:

> And e.g. Kennedy and Clinton weren’t?
>
> One of the most disastrous presidencies of recent times was Carter’s  - it
> ushered in neoliberalism - while Carter himself by all accounts is a man of
> decent character.
>
> The issue is US policy, not the character of the chief magistrate (as
> Sally Hemings might say).
>
>
> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:06 AM, Debra Schrishuhn <deb.pdamerica at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Or maybe it is because Trump is a lawless, bald-faced liar, cheater (in
> every sense of the term), underhanded, self-serving (and self-dealing),
> misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic racist with no core principles other
> than his own advancement and that of his cronies.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 3:57 PM C. G. Estabrook via Peace <
> peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> > Robert Reich’s letter to ‘MoveOn’ is an absolutely mad appeal by a
> self-proclaimed 'liberal' to get Trump out of office as soon as possible.
> >
> > Why is the political establishment so desperate not just to win the next
> election but to remove Trump now?
> >
> > I think that the answer is to be found in the US grand strategy ,
> followed by all recent US administrations. That depends on maintaining the
> US control of the world economy by retarding the economic development of
> Eurasia. (Not a new idea - see the 'Open Door Policy' of 1899.) Zbigniew
> Brzezinski wrote clearly of the US government's need to prevent the
> emergence of "peer competitors," Russia and China.
> >
> > Trump was the first major party candidate in 40 years to attack the
> neoliberal and neoconservative policies of previous administrations, which
> were designed to do that.
> >
> > In office, Trump has been compelled or cajoled to acquiesce in those
> policies, but the political establishment can't be assured that will
> continue, given the rising populist wave that put him in office. The threat
> has to be suppressed as soon as possible, and a reliable neolib/neocon
> executive put in place (by a coup, if necessary, as Adm. McRaven recently
> argued in the NYT).
> >
> > The example of Obama - the first president to be at war throughout two
> presidential terms, who waged no less than eight wars to constrain Eurasia
> and protect the economic control of the US 1% and for whom stooges like
> Reich and McRaven are working, must be followed, insists that establishment.
> >
> > (Reich? McRaving? To avoid being Trumped? Do the gods of history have a
> sardonic sense of humor?)
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