[Peace-discuss] [Peace] AWARE on the Air #493 notes

Wed Sep 25 15:32:04 UTC 2019

The question is not about Louis Proyect’s general political views or personal habits, but whether his account of Chinese policy toward the Uyghurs is correct:

Louis Proyect on "China, Saudia Arabia and the Fate of the Uyghurs"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/01/china-saudia-arabia-and-the-fate-of-the-uyghurs/

—CGE

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>  Upon review. I made two major errors in speech: 
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> 1) I said the British exported opium to India, what I should have said is the British exported opium from India, to China. This was in reference to the US exporting opium to China, and I should have explained they imported the opium from Turkey to China. 
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> 2) I said something in reference to Chinese real estate billionaires raising prices and profiting, immediately after  the handover, that is incorrect. They had been profiting from the rising prices of real estate long before the handover, under British colonialism, and continued to do so after the handover as Beijing does not control the economy of Hong Kong. 
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> I do question the insertion of the article in Counterpunch, by Louis Proyect, given he positions himself as a Marxist, while tearing down most Socialist organizations, individuals while supporting US war and interventions, primarily our covert ones. 
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> It’s true the Chinese did hire or attempted to hire, Erik Prince, company Frontier to work in Xinjiang province. Many overseas Chinese were complaining about this move. I can only assume its the ancient proverb of “keep your friends close, your enemy’s closer, in practice.” 
>  If you have your friends on your payroll you can trust them, if you have your enemy’s on your payroll, you own them. 
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> I’m not sure that contract went through, because shortly thereafter Erik was meeting with Donald Trump in the Whitehouse in an attempt to set up what amounts to a “paramilitary” in the US. 
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>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 19:10, J.B. Nicholson via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
>> 
>> AWARE on the Air #493
>> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RTcmB1Raw
>> 
>> A list of links to items referenced on the show.
>> 
>> Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard"
>> Complete book: https://cleaves.zapto.org/news/attachments/dec2009/grandchessboard__brzezinski.pdf
>> 
>> or get a copy from the CIA:
>> 
>> https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/36/36669B7894E857AC4F3445EA646BFFE1_Zbigniew_Brzezinski_-_The_Grand_ChessBoard.doc.pdf
>> 
>> British government's "imposition of trade of opium upon China"
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
>> 
>> James Bradley's "The China Mirage"
>> Complete book: http://www.kropfpolisci.com/china.us.liberalism.bradley.pdf
>> 
>> Regarding people noticing similarities in fomenting war: Jimmy Dore's take on CBS's propaganda pushing war with Iran including feedback from multiple YouTube respondents who point out how CBS's coverage is "Total BS, we are being lied to just like we were with Iraq" and "'Fired from Iran, sources say'. Yes, the same sources that said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, same sources that said Gulf of Tonkin was 100% the fault of the north vietnamese" [sic]
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKfYQU5NNCk
>> 
>> Licia Flynn's "Firm Denial"
>> ISBN-10: 1732277737
>> ISBN-13: 978-1732277731
>> 
>> Licia Flynn's "Firm Resolve"
>> ISBN-10: 1732277710
>> ISBN-13: 978-1732277717
>> 
>> Edward Snowden's "Permanent Record"
>> ISBN-10: 1250237238
>> ISBN-13: 978-1250237231
>> Read an excerpt: https://theintercept.com/2019/09/21/edward-snowden-permanent-record-book/
>> 
>> Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers on "Hong Kong In The Crosshairs Of Global Power And Ideological Struggles"
>> https://popularresistance.org/hong-kong-in-the-crosshairs-of-global-power-and-ideological-struggles/
>> 
>> Redacted Tonight's Lee Camp interview with Michelle Greenstein
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AklaIcDvAsU
>> 
>> Collapse of the American Empire lecture by Chris Hedges
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csI8JLJ15Ak
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPk9HSLagVg -- Steve Paikin's related interview with Hedges
>> 
>> Louis Proyect on "China, Saudia Arabia and the Fate of the Uyghurs"
>> https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/01/china-saudia-arabia-and-the-fate-of-the-uyghurs/
>> 
>> Belt and Road Initiative
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative
>> 
>> Pres. Trump speech at the UN General Assembly
>> https://www.c-span.org/video/?463700-1/president-trump-calls-global-trade-reform-un-speech
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJWvDyUCHPY
>> 
>> "A Brief History of Neoliberalism" by David Harvey
>> ISBN-13: 978-0199283279
>> ISBN-10: 0199283273
>> 
>> Related to distracting people:
>> https://bennorton.com/adolph-reed-identity-politics-is-neoliberalism/ -- Adolph Reed on "Identity Politics Is Neoliberalism"
>> 
>> World Labor Hour archive
>> http://stream.wrfu.net/wrfu-recordings/World%20Labor%20Hour/
>> 
>> "Moderate Rebels" channel
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNiXhsI4QtmQaeICpT-k7BQ/videos
>> 
>> "Grayzone Project" channel
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEXR8pRTkE2vFeJePNe9UcQ/videos
>> https://thegrayzone.com/
>> 
>> Max Blumenthal's "Goliath"
>> ISBN-10: 1568586345
>> ISBN-13: 978-1568586342
>> 
>> "Goliath" Review by Steven Salaita
>> https://www.palestine-studies.org/jps/fulltext/164378
>> 
>> "Moderate Rebels" shows on Hong Kong and China
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcIWrkUFGic -- "US meddling in Hong Kong's protests and the new cold war on China with Carl Zha"
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a38bOtUEXcc -- "Hong Kong's real colonial history and the protests' anti-China right-wing nativism with Carl Zha"
>> https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/moderaterebels/
>> 
>> Audio of two-part interview with Carl Zha
>> Moderate_Rebels_Hong_Kong_Carl_Zha_part_1.mp3?dest-id=553365
>> Moderate_Rebels_Hong_Kong_Carl_Zha_part_2.mp3?dest-id=553365
>> 
>> "Moderate Rebels" RSS feed
>> https://moderaterebels.libsyn.com/rss
>> 
>> -J
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