[Peace-discuss] Nancy Pelosi Isn’t a Warhawk Like the Queen of the Warmongers

[Robert Naiman]

I couldn't agree more. I'm nagging my friends all the time: "Let's have a
plan to fight Pelosi for the gavel after the election."



On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 2:45 PM David Johnson <davidjohnson1451 at comcast.net>
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> *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] Nancy Pelosi Isn’t a Warhawk Like the Queen of
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> Nancy Pelosi Isn’t a Warhawk Like the Queen of the Warmongers
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> The recent intervention by the Queen of the Warmongers against Team Bernie
> presents us with yet another Teachable Moment for understanding Washington,
> DC political culture as it relates to the Warmonger DNC Dem Establishment.
> I have previously noted that, when trying to understand Warmonger DNC Dem
> Establishment political culture, “snake” is not a useful distinction,
> because “snake behavior is normal” consciousness is a standard feature of
> Warmonger DNC Dem Establishment political culture, so that saying that
> someone who relates to Warmonger DNC Dem Establishment political culture is
> a “snake” is like saying that a someone who relates to Warmonger DNC Dem
> Establishment political culture is “close to AIPAC.” You didn’t learn
> anything. It’s “snake” and “AIPAC” all the way down. In the case of AIPAC,
> I have argued that we have to distinguish between “normal AIPAC” and “hyper
> AIPAC.” We can refer to someone who relates to Warmonger DNC Dem
> Establishment political culture as “normal AIPAC” when they do whatever
> AIPAC wants when the toiling progressive Democratic masses are not watching
> and engaged. We can refer to someone who relates to Warmonger DNC Dem
> Establishment political culture as “hyper AIPAC” when they do whatever
> AIPAC wants even when the toiling progressive Democratic masses are
> watching and engaged.
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> Joe Lieberman was hyper AIPAC. He went up to 11. He was one louder. He was
> a True Believer. I saw it with my own eyes in Connecticut in August 2006.
> In his support for the Iraq war, he was like a tree that was standing by
> the water. He would not be moved. He preferred to go down in flames in a
> Democratic Primary in Connecticut in 2006 than to take three steps away
> from his support for the Iraq war. “Hier bin ich. Ich kann nicht anders.” I
> have a certain respect for that, like Boris Spassky respected Bobby
> Fischer, like the CIA respected the KGB. You’re me, on the other side.
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> The Queen of the Warmongers is not like that. The Queen of the Warmongers
> supported Obama’s Iran deal. At the eleventh hour, at the last minute, but
> she supported it. Not every Democrat supported Obama’s Iran deal. Chuck
> Schumer, Bob Menendez, Ben Cardin, and Joe Manchin voted against it.
> Menendez said that decorated war hero John Kerry was spouting “talking
> points from Tehran.” Eliot Engel and Ted Lieu voted against it. So you
> can’t put the Queen of the Warmongers in the top bucket of warmongers with
> Joe Lieberman. She wasn’t a tree standing by the water. She could be moved.
> In 2007, the Queen of the Warmongers voted against Bush’s Iraq “surge.”
> Later, when she was Obama’s Secretary of State, she “confessed” to Obama’s
> Republican Secretary of State, Robert Gates, that she had voted against
> Bush’s 2007 Iraq “surge” for “political reasons.” She was “pandering” to
> the toiling progressive Democratic masses – us – because she was planning
> to run for POTUS in 2008. So she wasn’t a tree that was planted by the
> water. She could be moved. On the other hand, when she was Obama’s
> Secretary of State, she was the main organizer of and cheerleader for the
> unconstitutional Libya war, which Robert Gates opposed on realist grounds.
> The unconstitutional Libya war unleashed a chain of biblical catastrophes
> in the Middle East which we are still working to unwind, including the
> Yemen war and the Syria war. So while the Queen of the Warmongers is not
> Joe Lieberman, she is close by. If Joe Lieberman is a 10, let’s give the
> Queen of the Warmongers a 9.
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> If the Queen of the Warmongers is a 9, what is Nancy Pelosi? Nancy Pelosi
> voted against the Iraq war and supported the Iran deal. But every single
> one of her chosen national security lieutenants – Steny Hoyer, Eliot Engel,
> Adam Smith, and Adam Schiff – voted for the Iraq war. Eliot Engel voted
> against the Iran deal. Steny Hoyer voted for the Iran deal but put out a
> statement trashing the deal that could have been written by Donald Trump
> and Sheldon Adelson. The entire House Democratic leadership backed Trump’s
> “maximum pressure” strategy against Iran that brought us to the brink of
> war, including new sanctions that violated the Iran deal. But none of these
> people is Joe Lieberman, because under pressure from the toiling
> progressive Democratic masses they moved on the Yemen war and they moved on
> the Iran war. So none of these people can be a 10. Are they all a 9? Here’s
> another piece of information: in the 2008 Obama-Hillary race, when Obama
> had won a majority of elected delegates but hadn’t sealed the nomination
> because of the unelected superdelegates who were supporting Hillary, Nancy
> Pelosi wrote a letter saying that the unelected superdelegates should
> respect the will of the majority of Democratic voters and back Obama. For
> this thoughtcrime, Nancy Pelosi got scolded by Haim Saban and other
> warmonger donors to the DNC who were backing Hillary, who told Nancy Pelosi
> to butt out. So Nancy Pelosi can’t be a 9, she has to be an 8. Because when
> the majority of Democratic voters were on one side, and the Queen of the
> Warmongers and Haim Saban were on the other, Nancy Pelosi tried to stand up
> to the Queen of the Warmongers. Nancy Pelosi can’t be a 9, she has to be an
> 8, because when push came to shove, and the house lights were on, and the
> toiling progressive Democratic masses were watching, Nancy Pelosi stood up
> for democracy in the Democratic Party against the Queen of the Warmongers
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