[Peace] [Peace-discuss] WCIA has posted a petition re resignation of Mayor Schweighart

[C. G. Estabrook]

Greg, by Schweighart's "tea party endorsement" do you mean his assertion that 
Obama may not meet the Constitutional requirements of citizenship for the 
presidency?

If so, I do think the fact that the mayor entertains that probably mistaken but 
largely irrelevant opinion is a non-issue.  Who cares what he thinks about that?

But I certainly don't see how saying that is "like saying we should 'move on' 
from the killing of Kiwane Carrington." Schweighart and all other members of the 
Champaign City Council who refuse to dismiss the police responsible for 
Carrington's killing - and fail to reform a corrupt department - should be 
driven from office.  --CGE


On 4/17/10 8:13 PM, PGregory Springer wrote:
> I apologize for not being able to reply correctly to the lists.
>
> I agree with Durango Mendoza. Schweighart's comments are the culmination
> of many things, including his appalling response to the Kwane Carrington
> killing. By saying his tea party endorsement is a non-issue is like
> saying we should "move on" from the killing of Kwane. The two things are
> linked and it is an opportunity to demand the resignation of the mayor
> and keep the stories alive.
>
> P Gregory Springer
>
>
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> From: durangom at hotmail.com
> To: galliher at illinois.edu; martiwilki at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:56:59 -0500
> CC: peace at lists.chambana.net; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net;
> announce at lists.communitycourtwatch.org; durangom at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] WCIA has posted a petition re
> resignation of Mayor Schweighart
>
>
> Adding sugar and cream to the tea party birther line with a couple of
> verbal pastries on the side is to cloud the issue at hand. We have not
> just seen a slip of the tongue after quaffing from the tea party cup. We
> have glimpsed the underlying and fundamental base that guides the
> mayor’s thoughts, actions and non-actions. They reveal, if not fully,
> why he could let the killing of a black teen not have logical consequences.
>
> Adding side issues that national wrongs should be addressed instead, and
> pointing out one’s right to lie bears a striking resemblance to school
> yard retorts, “Oh, yeah, what he did is nothing compared to what big
> so-and-so did, so just shut up already! Why don’t you make HIM stop if
> it bothers you so much?” Such dismissive and pot-stirring comparisons
> are too easily made and are fundamentally unhelpful. That larger issues
> need work does not mean local ones do not need action. This issue adds
> traction to the injustice ones.
>
> I’m sure there were some major national and world issues that needed
> work at the same time that a tired Rosa Parks decided to sit where she
> was rather than move. “Why, I bet some of those white passengers were
> more tired than she was. I mean, like, like...what makes her better than
> them? Don’t they have rights too? I bet she wasn't really tired. She
> just wanted to make local trouble.” And she did have a plan: start local
> and personal and larger change could follow. In spite of dismissers,
> apologists, assassins, and "moles" planted among the change agents,
> positive change happened. And more is needed as our work is not yet
> complete. It requires the helpful support of the many.
>
> Change does start one person at a time. Sadly, so does hate.
>
> DM
>
>  > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:13:25 -0500
>  > From: galliher at illinois.edu
>  > To: martiwilki at gmail.com
>  > CC: peace at lists.chambana.net; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net;
>  > announce at lists.communitycourtwatch.org
>  > Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] WCIA has posted a petition re
>  > resignation of Mayor Schweighart
>  >
>  > And of course the chief magistrate whose legitimacy the mayor questions
>  > has ordered murder on a large scale - including assassination and the
>  > summary execution of American citizens; he's not merely failed to
>  > fulfill his responsibilities in regard to corrupt and murderous police.
>  >
>  >
>  > C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>  > > Talk about straining at a gnat & swallowing a camel...
>  > >
>  > > There should be a serious campaign for the removal of the mayor of
>  > > Champaign - & the other members of the Champaign City Council - for
>  > > nonfeasance in not dismissing police officers responsible for the
>  > > killing of an unarmed 15-year-old. But instead we have a frivolous
>  > > campaign for his removal because he points out that the Constitution
>  > > requires the president to be a natural-born citizen - as it does (art.
>  > > 2, sect. 1) - and that questions have been raised whether Obama
>  > > qualifies - as they have.
>  > >
>  > > It's hardly wrong to ask the question, as Obama supporters seem to
>  > > assert. What's curious is the dog (or the mule) in the night - how
>  > > hesitant the Democrats have been in answering the question. You'd
>  > > think that they would go out of their way to refute any suggestion that
>  > > Obama is not constitutionally entitled to be president. --CGE
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Marti Wilkinson wrote:
>  > >> I'm of the opinion that removing the mayor from office is best done
>  > >> with the vote of the people. Setting aside his stupid remarks at the
>  > >> 'Tea Party' - I would like to see a democratic process take place
>  > >> where *his record* **becomes the focus. Since he has taken office he
>  > >> has supported the actions of the police force, has voted against
>  > >> broadband,and is generally rude and boorish towards the citizens who
>  > >> question the actions of the city council during public commentary. I
>  > >> could go on of course, but demanding that he resign at this point
>  > >> will just bring out every 'birther' out of the woodwork. Is that
>  > >> really in the best interest of the citizenry.
>  > >>
>  > >> Besides, Jerry is a figurehead at best. The person who really runs
>  > >> the show in Champaign is Steve Carter...perhaps we can circulate a
>  > >> petition asking him to resign over his failure to fire Chief Finney
>  > >> and for allowing Officer Norbits to work while supposedly on
>  > >> 'administrative leave'.
>  > >>
>  > >> Marti

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