[Peace] good news?

Mon Jan 30 08:06:01 CST 2012

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>For some reason, www.occupycu.org returns that the site cannot be found. You can get to a cached copy of it from January 24, 2012. Now, occupycu.org is fine, as ishttp://occupycu.org/. I will look into this. 
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>Sorry about the repeat email, Julianne. I forgot to reply all on the previous one. 
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>Chris
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>On Jan 28, 2012, at 20:19, "Julianne Panagacos" <julianne.panagacos at gmail.com> wrote:
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>I would like to propose/ request that discussions happen on the forum now that it is up and running again. 
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>>I like you all a lot and want to organize with you AND I don't want to be involved in all conversations that are happening, though I am glad that they are happening.
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>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Matt E <matte.occupycu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Hi there, Chandler, I want to make sure I understand your position. You seem to be saying that if someone makes a claim about me, and I ask for evidence for the claim, I am attacking the person making the claim, by asking for evidence. Maybe I didn't understand what you said. My belief is that a person who makes an unfounded claim is the one attacking, and one who asks for evidence is simply asking for the attacker to be reasonable.
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>>>As for Occupy, the reality is that it engages in lots of illegal behavior and lots of confrontation with the police (for instance right now in Oakland). I don't think any politician would want to be associated with that. Which is fine, because Occupy is not about cooperating with the government. That's why it's called a "global revolution." It's about confrontation with the government, similar to what has been going on in Egypt.
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>>>So that's the nature of the movement. It seems to me that people who do not want to be associated with that would not want to be part of the movement.
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>>>Matt
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>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Colan Holmes <colanholmes at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>As is now apparent to all, the video is an attempt by a right-wing pundit to link Obama with those in Occupy who use violence (right-wing fact fail: Occupy is non-violent).
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>>>>What is worth considering more at this point is: WHY does the video agitate us? WHAT does the pundit seek to gain/WHO gains by our frustration? ARE WE GOING TO GIVE HIM/THEM THE SATISFACTION?
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>>>>Opinion: Within the same one-month time-frame, I campaigned for Obama and had police shoot mace and pepper-balls at me for protesting Obama's shortcomings. These positions seem contradictory, but I have found myself in them because of my reasoning regarding how to change the world from what it is to what I want it to be.
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>>>>I think firebrands and diplomats each have a place in Occupy (as long as they respect one another).
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>>>>Matt - I didn't want to take sides, but, please stop attacking Mike (and other so-called "enemies of Occupy").
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>>>>Unity,
>>>>Chandler 
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>>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Matt E <matte.occupycu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>Mike, where do you get that I like Stranahan? I said I liked the video and gave the reason why. Your statement that I like Stranahan is, as far as I know, baseless. Would you care to provide some evidence for your claim or retract your statement? 
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>>>>>Matt 
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>>>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Michael Weissman <mbwmbwmbw at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>Perhaps this other video from Stranahan sheds light on why Matt likes him. I strongly urge everyone to check out what we are dealing with.
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>>>>>>http://leestranahan.com/better-this-world-fact-check-with-brandondarby
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>>>>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Matt E <matte.occupycu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>By "our" do you mean Democrats? I don't think the video makes the Democratic Party look very good at all to the people the Democratic Party tries to appeal to. That's why Democratic politicians and their fans should steer clear of a movement that explicitly and repeatedly calls for global revolution and then acts on it. Videos like this help make that point, whether intentionally or not. 
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>>>>>>>Matt 
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>>>>>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Michael Weissman <mbwmbwmbw at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>LOL- A Lee Stranahan video? The notorious Breitbart employee/sycophant? Yeah, he's on our side. 
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>>>>>>>>On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Matt E <matte.occupycu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>I really like this video in the way it pairs some of the more
>>>>>>>>>aggressive protesters with the Obama campaign. Such aggressive protest
>>>>>>>>>techniques will help convince mainstream politicians to keep their
>>>>>>>>>distance from Occupy. I don't think any politician would want to be
>>>>>>>>>associated with what is likely to happen in Chicago this May.
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>>>>>>>>>Starhawk is also an interesting figure. She is a witch and the founder
>>>>>>>>>of Code Pink.
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>>>>>>>>>Matt
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>>>>>>>>>On 1/26/12, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Income Inequality as Obama's Campaign
>>>>>>>>>> Theme<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8zB2dOZSCc>
>>>>>>>>>> *what's in it for OcCUpyCU? let's discuss at tomorrow' s GA*
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>>>>>>>>Michael Weissman
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>>>>>>Michael Weissman
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