[Peace] [Peace-discuss] Proposal

Tue Mar 29 23:14:57 EDT 2016

Yes Karen thank you.

That's exactly what David Johnson said, and for which I agree. We're not curbing his freedom of speech, we just don't care to provide him with our program to exercise it.

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From: Peace-discuss <peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net> on behalf of Karen Medina via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:58 PM
To: Stephen Francis
Cc: Peace-discuss List
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Proposal

Steve, You have a lot to say. Feel free to start your own show.
-karen medina

On Mar 26, 2016 5:22 PM, "Stephen Francis via Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
Dear Carl,
Thank you for the opportunity to submit a proposal involving my participation on your community show.
I do this with complete respect for your stature in the community along with all your colleagues.
I realize that my views are controversial, but that does not make them false.
It has always fascinated me that individuals can look at the same pieces of evidence and make completely opposing conclusions based on that evidence. One side or the other is clearly wrong and being irrational in varying degrees.

My appearance on your show will give viewers a chance to compare those conclusions, based on the presentation of evidence.  I try to adhere to the scientific method at all times in order to provide a common system for viewers to assess what they see and hear. Personal attacks, ad hominem statements should be strictly avoided by all participants. Accusing me of being a neo-Nazi is included in this requirement.  I am not a neo-Nazi and only refer to them in reference to their collaboration with Zionists (in Ukraine and elsewhere).

Before I go any further with this email, I would like to reiterate some points about my credibility in engaging this proposal in the event that this email gets forwarded to anyone.

A brief summary of points is as follows: As we discussed, my first foray into the world of political activism began in 1969. To make a long story short, I was arrested and jailed in the stockade at Fort Ord, California in 1969 as a uniformed Army soldier (along with three other soldiers) for disobeying orders given by three commissioned officers (to get on a bus) during a anti-Vietnam War demonstration. This act was the culmination of my becoming aware that the Vietnam War was an immoral, cooked-up act of typical warmonger profiteers that have been with us for centuries.

Once I got out of the service (with an Other than Honorable Discharge of which I'm proud) I did not participate in political activities of any kind until 9/11/2001, when it struck me that that day had a highly significant connection to the horrors of the Vietnam War.

I was deeply moved by 9/11 and wanted to find out what really happened. I discovered hundreds of inconsistencies in the official story and started a website in 2002 detailing those inconsistencies. The website is www.newsfollowup.com<http://www.newsfollowup.com> and enjoys 40-70,000 pages downloaded per month that goes to all continents (reports available upon demand).  99% of all websites in the world get less traffic. The site gets only a minuscule drop of attention considering the total size of world wide web, but it is not insignificant. I think that I'm a reasonably well qualified to appear on your show.

I'm also the author of the YouTube channel 'Academic Freedom Conference' ... it enjoys 850 subscribers and over 208,000 views.

My research led me inevitably to Israel and Zionists ... and neocons. I had no prior reason to be suspicious of them until this research.  There is a common thread throughout the last one hundred and fifty years or so that has led me to this point and that is the creation of the State of Israel. If one follows that thread from the Bolshevik revolution to 9/11 there is incontrovertible evidence that this is a core principle that can lead to understanding our modern world. NewsFollowUp.com (and YouTube) is a journey through this period. This long-term global perspective is of ultimate importance. For example, if one considers the Industrial Revolution, Zionists... Rothschilds knew that the control of oil/energy and having a footprint in the Middle East was overwhelmingly essential.  All else easily falls into place from that one goal. The Palestinians never had the slightest chance to countering such massive wealth and power and they are still suffering from it. The Rothschild began financially supporting settlements in the late 19th century.

Once one crosses over the line and believes that Israel was complicit in 9/11 and that the official story of 9/11 is not true, then the total 'official' history of Israel becomes suspect. Tens of thousands of books and billions of dollars have been spent on re-writing history to obfuscate the real story of the creation of the State of Israel. In 2016 the internet is finally starting to significantly uncover the lies. The world-wide surge in anti-Semitism I believe is connected.

It is utterly horrific to consider that the leaders of Israel (and neocons) actually murdered 3000 people on 9/11 to further their own interests. Most people cognitively block out this possibility because it is so abhorrent, but if you openly look at the evidence, it is the only conclusion one can make and you let the evidence take you wherever it goes, unless one has ulterior motives. Worldwide polls confirm significant disbelief in the official story.  Israel has the most egregious history of false flag attacks of any country on the face of the earth.

There is an incredibly well-organized effort by the Jewish academic community to utterly stamp out any consideration of investigating 9/11 on a university level and the effort is very effective.  George Bush tried to stop the formation of the 9/11 Commission but failed.  The final report is all but ignored because it is packed with lies and propaganda. The Jewish effort to stop any investigation of 9/11 comes from the same place I believe.

So, I'm requesting the acceptance of my proposal to participate in your show not to significantly change anyone's beliefs, but just to see if you'll actually allow it. Are you truly not intimidated by my message. Will you actually engage in a debate about the subjects I'm speaking of or will you just say they're unimportant, which to me is evidence of ulterior motives.

I've been at this quest for the truth now for 14 years and have seen just about every method of rejection there is.  It's actually quite fascinating and I've come to the conclusion that alliances, camaraderie and a sense of belonging most of the time will trump acceptance of the truth in the world of politics. The cognitive dissonance created by being subjected to a view that is not in one's own sphere of people with similar beliefs overwhelmingly clouds easily recognizable evidence.

I'm also very interested in what level or bar does a piece of evidence have to overcome in order for someone to admit that it is significant and deserves more investigation. For example, No steel highrise structure before or since 9/11 has collapsed or been destroyed by fuel fires or plane crashes? (not even considering that they fell at free fall speeds) ... In the world of criminal science, typically it only requires one significant piece of evidence to turn the direction of an investigation. Scientifically speaking it is 99.99999999% impossible for this collapse to happen, but in the case of 9/11 thousands of similarly weighted pieces of evidence are totally ignored. If a thief leaves fingerprints all over the scene of a crime, what is one to believe?

But this leads to this thought:  hypothetically speaking ... if Israel was actually investigated and found guilty of perpetrating a false flag attack in order to further its interest, would this not be a mind-blowing occurrence that would utterly overwhelm any other political topics, change the face of global politics, put into question the whole 'war on terror' and even have an effect on our interpretation of ISIS which is a direct consequence of the illegal war on Iraq ... which was rationalized by 9/11 ...on and on. Anyone denying the importance of this thought is doing so irrationally in my opinion. There are powerful forces stopping any kind of investigation.

Anti-Semitism is related and has been growing dramatically in the last few years. I closely watch and study this phenomenon and don't believe it is just because of the Palestinian issue. The internet is flooded with evidence of Israel's complicity in the 9/11 attack and it is prompting people to take a second look, which can lead all the way back to the Bolshevik revolution and actually the expulsions of Jews throughout the last two millennia. Anti-Semitism is in part on the rise because of the increased belief in the complicity of Israel in 9/11.

The internet is of much greater importance that what is generally believed.  Who would have thought that Donald Trump would be where he is at this point in the election cycle. He has literally torn to shreds the GOP mantra... not so much him but all the masses who have voted for him and are sick and tired of the wars and corruption of our government. They want a say in their future and are rejecting the 'establishment'. Anti-Semitism is expanding under the same sort of phenomena. The MSM no longer has the grip it used to.  People are waking up and are asking what is the real history of the State of Israel.

On a local scale, it is very easy to contain this anti-Semitism. I know. I've been black-listed and ignored, but on a global scale I have not been ignored. My website is really a reflection of global beliefs.  It doesn't create traffic per se, it reports on the quantity of people who are interested in its content. It's like a barometer more than anything else. My beliefs are still in the minority but are changing rapidly and the extent of anti-Semitism is an indicator of those changes.

If you decide to include me in one of your shows, I promise not to bring up the Holocaust.  I only focused on it before because of that individual who kept attacking me ... I have forgotten his name.
I will be as civil as everyone else and respect all views. Please try to prove my wrong if you wish. I will listen to your arguments attentively.

Sincerely,
Steve Francis
http://www.newsfollowup.com
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0It_Q2qh6JQMLwKw1nB8Bg

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