[Peace] now that it is October, mark your calendar / College of Law campaigning for Clinton

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 3 15:04:20 UTC 2016


Greg

It is campaigning, when I challenged Prof. Amar on the fact that he was supposed to speak on “Freedom of Speech”, a couple weeks ago, because all he was doing was campaigning for Hillary and Democrats, he responded with a defense of Hillary and her actions, which I had also challenged. He replied that “only five Americans died in Libya”, holding up five fingers and emphasizing a second time, “only five Americans”. Thus not only diminishing those American lives lost, but totally ignoring and diminishing the thousands upon thousands of Libyans, and other nationals in the "Middle East and North Africa whose lives were lost, and lands destroyed. Look behind the looking glass, its campaigning for Hillary, Harold Koh, and all cohorts, and the continuing wars they are perpetuating.

Last year the COL held a talk, on the “Legitimacy of Targeted Killing” and then avoided any discussion of its relationship to the law. The very title, was placing a stamp of approval on targeted killing. These people are very smart, they use subtle tactics to accomplish their goals.

The very act of bringing Harold Killer Koh to the University to speak, within ten days of the election, someone who should be viewed as a "war criminal” along with Hillary, Obama, Bush, Cheney and so many others lends a facade of credibility to their actions.This should not be tolerated.

Only Prof. Boyle of the COL U of I, has has the courage to speak out against the schools actions. He deserves our support.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 07:39, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com<mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

If that's what it's really about, then say that's what it's really about.  That's my point.

And I still maintain that the University of Illinois Law School is a strange place to go seeking votes in Florida and Ohio.  I suspect there will be more protesters there than students anyway, especially since they know nothing he says will be on the test.



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Subject: Re: [Peace] now that it is October, mark your calendar / College of Law campaigning for Clinton

Hardly obscure law professors, neither one. And, consider many of the “students” at the U of I, are voters in other states. Anyway, its really about promoting “warfare” especially drone warfare to future voters, as the norm now. Anyone not seeing this is likely very young, or very into “rose colored glasses” believing the lies of the corporate/military owned USG.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 03:03, Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com<mailto:ggregg79 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

Frankly, anyone who thinks a speech by an obscure law professor in a non-battleground state is a "campaign event" needs a basic tutorial in electoral politics.  Protest him -- fine -- but not for that reason.


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Subject: Re: [Peace] now that it is October, mark your calendar / College of Law campaigning for Clinton

I wouldn’t count on that John, I attended a  UIUC COL lecture a couple weeks ago, for which they brought in Yale law Professor Anil Amar to discuss “Freedom of Speech” All he did, was, after the first fifteen minutes of Poli Sci. 101, and promoting his book on the “Constitution”, was campaign for Hillary and the democrats. It may not have been overt to some but it was obvious to me, especially when he referred to Tammy Duckworth as a worthy candidate. Needless to say I called him on it, and he replied that "we were exercising our freedom of speech.”  So I wouldn’t trust the title or lecture description at all.


On Oct 1, 2016, at 13:07, John W. via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:


While "Killer" Koh may be buddies with Hillary, his topic and its description sounds quite neutral, and I doubt that he will be doing any overt campaigning for Hillary at the UIUC College of Law.  Presumably a President Trump (God forbid!) would have to address the same foreign policy challenges.

John Wason



On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Karen Medina via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

By inviting Harold Koh to speak just _11_ days before the 2016 election, the U of I College of Law is campaigning for Hillary Clinton. This is against the Illinois Constitution and the Ethics Act.

 October 28, 2016, join us to demonstrate against this.
--
"The First 200 Days: Foreign Policy Law Challenges for the Next Administration” lecture by Harold Koh (Yale University)

Friday, October 28, 2016
Max L. Rowe Auditorium, Law Building
12:00 PM–1:00 PM

"As the presidential campaign rages, the foreign policy and international law challenges have been pushed to the background. But after early November they will take center stage. What key foreign policy issues must the next Administration quickly address and what domestic and international legal challenges do they raise?"

Harold Hongju Koh returned to Yale Law School in January 2013 after serving for nearly four years as the Legal Adviser of the U.S. Department of State when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. Koh and Clinton have been friends for a very long time.

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