[Peace] [Peace-discuss] Inside Trump Defense Secretary Pick’s Efforts to Halt Torture - The New York Times

[Niloofar Shambayati]

Although I appreciate the exchange of ideas about who's worse for America
and the rest of the world, I believe that the Peace-List is not an
appropriate medium for that. Those who're interested can always go to the
Peace-Discuss list. Thanks!

Niloofar Shambayati

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Carl G. Estabrook via Peace <
peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:

> An hysterical attempt by the neoliberal and neoconservative establishment
> to exert control, one way or another, over a president who became so by
> criticizing neoliberalism (more inequality) and neoconservatism (more war).
>
> "Only strong ideological opposition to the Democratic Party can challenge
> the madness of the US empire's anti-Russia campaign or any other war being
> waged by its military institutions. The left in the US has struggled for
> over four decades to crawl out of the Democratic Party's graveyard of
> social movements. Obama further buried the entire left in the graveyard for
> two terms.”
>
> http://www.blackagendareport.com/let_the_empire_die
>
> —CGE
>
>
>
> > On Jan 4, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jay <futureup2us at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From the Call to Action, so much more could be added today since it was
> drafted some weeks ago. Read more at www.refusefascism.org
> >
> > The Presidency of Donald Trump is illegitimate.
> >
> > Donald Trump did not win the popular vote. Not even close, he lost by
> 2.5 million votes. He won the Electoral College – an institution set up in
> 1787 to protect slavery.  This legacy of the most brutal oppression of
> Black people has become the means that enabled the election of Trump and
> Pence.
> >
> > More fundamentally, it is the fascist character of the Trump/Pence
> regime and what they are planning to do which renders it illegitimate and
> an immoral peril to the future of humanity and the earth itself.
> >
> > Under the slogan “Make America Great Again,” Donald Trump has viciously
> attacked Mexicans and Muslims, threatening to register and deport millions,
> closing borders. He incites fear and hate of all who are “different” –
> nationalities, religions, or gender. He crudely demeans and degrades women,
> openly boasting about molesting them. He champions white supremacy and
> whips up a racist lynch-mob mentality. Trump has mocked the disabled. He is
> a bellicose militarist, who threatens to use nuclear weapons. He openly
> advocates war crimes — including torture. He vows to pack the Supreme Court
> with justices who will take away the right to abortion and gay rights. He
> denies science – calling climate change a hoax and will wreak devastation
> on the environment. He has attacked and threatened the press and stirred up
> his supporters to do the same. He has threatened to strip citizenship for
> constitutionally protected dissent. Trump has utter contempt for facts and
> the truth, and consistently lies to advance his agenda. As for the rule of
> law, Trump went so far as to openly threaten his opponent, Hillary Clinton,
> not only with jail, but even assassination. By any definition, Donald Trump
> is a fascist.  He has put together a regime that will carry out this
> program, and worse.
> >
> > This is fascism and it is a very serious thing. It has direction and
> momentum that must be stopped before it becomes too late.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 4, 2017, at 09:40, Carl G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> "...Trump is not a fascist and in fact bears very few points of
> comparison with the politics of the 1930s.”
> >>
> >> https://livesrunning.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/after-fascism-what/
> >>
> >> "Locating Fascism on the Home Map":
> >>
> >> http://blackagendareport.com/locating_fascism_on_home_map
> >>
> >> —CGE
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Jay via Peace-discuss <
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh, I realize this is hardly the most courageous stand in the face of
> this proven supporter of the KKK’s nomination. Maybe we can say that it is
> SO extreme that (even) they felt compelled to speak out against it?
> >>>
> >>> On a very positive note, a powerful statement of NO! We REFUSE to
> accept a fascist America! was published as a full page ad in the New York
> Times today, p. 7 in the national edition, thanks to 1000s of people
> signing it and hundreds donating to get it out around the country. We’ll be
> publishing it in many other outlets as more people do the same. If you
> haven’t yet, I urge you to sign and get involved! www.refusefascism.org
> >>>
> >>> Jay
> >>>
> >>> <15825993_10154167465671680_1905205824311534216_n.jpg>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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