[Peace] My response to NFN yesterday. I pasted it on the NFN Utube page.

[Karen Aram]

Mort

In respect to your comment that Hedges said he is a friend of Kashoggi, I see that as no surprise, they are both journalists. Hedges spent a lot of time in the Middle East covering the wars there, as well as elsewhere in the world, and he spoke Arabic. He also wrote for the WP sometimes, after leaving the NYT’s.

I have a few good friends that worked for the State Dept., only one I’m sure to be CIA, of the “questionable variety” from my student days, in DC., a classmate and student of Russian politics, I found him interesting and enjoyed his company.  However, I wouldn’t sleep with him or marry him  because of our political differences.

My closest friend and room mate went to work for the State Dept., as did her husband, a senior level diplomat who did two tours in the USSR, and to whom I owe my visit to Moscow, at the time. I’m still friends with both, as well with a former colleague whose job is providing “technical security for US embassy’s and organizations.”

I have one current, former colleague/ friend who is now with the State Dept., overseas, and yes I’m certain he is CIA, he obtained his position with my assistance, and we communicate on occasion, of course he never reveals anything other than “things aren’t looking good.” Is he involved in anything of the “questionable variety” I doubt it.

My point is that one can be friends, with those we may not agree with politically, though it does often erode the friendship over time.

As to Khasshogi, my irritation with Rula Jabreal’s assessment of him, was her deliberate and careful avoidance of his role in the Saudi/US wars, her attempt to pose him not as a “victim of Saudi Royal family internal politics” or even US political directions that maybe taking place, but rather as a “hero” or “martyr.” Rula’s, along with the rest of mainstream media coverage, of this one “kind” man, in the face of all that is ignored by the media, that of the war in Yemen, and elsewhere by the Saudi’s with US support, is the real outrage.






On Oct 27, 2018, at 21:52, Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu<mailto:brussel at illinois.edu>> wrote:

Footnote: Chris Hedges has said that Khashoggi was a good friend…

On Oct 27, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Karen Aram via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net<mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:

David: Why quote Louis Proyect, he is a wolf in sheeps’ clothing. “Unrepentant Marxist” my foot, and he is not the only one. A true socialist has no problem recognizing Khashoggi is not a "kind or good" man.  Carl: your statement that Rosa Luxembourg was murdered by socialists is a bit disingenuous, given she was murdered by Social Democratic leader Friedrich Ebert, who ordered a division of the German military, known as the Freikorps. Rosa Luxemburg, with Karl Liebknecht, organized a strong movement in Germany with these views, but was imprisoned and, after her release, killed at Eberts instructions, for her work during the failed German Revolution of 1919 - a revolution which the German Social Democratic Party, violently opposed.

David: I too was outraged over Rula Jabreal’s spin on Kashoggi, on Democracy Now, and posted on my FB page, the following statement to which many were in agreement:

Evening rant: Democracy Now, this morning with Rula Jabreal speaking of her recent interview with Jamal Kashoggi, made me ill. Her portrait of him as a "kind man, wanting democracy and human rights blah, blah for his people." And, Amy never said a word. This "kind man" as she referred to him, was tortured, murdered, dismembered and buried in the Embassy/Consulate grounds. However, he supported the KSA in their war efforts, specifically in Yemen. No one deserves to die as he did, certainly none of the Yemeni civilians who have been dying in record numbers since March 2015 due to US and Saudi efforts. Their bodies aren't even buried, just left to rot in the rubble from the Saudi bombings, which take place only with USG support, our weapons, our training, logistics, refueling etc.

MBS the new guy responsible for J. Kashoggi's death, visited the US after his coup, with our ruling elites, especially the Trump Administration, promoting him as a reformer, because he planned to allow Saudi women the right to drive. This was proven to be a facade, when he had the woman leading the call for driving privileges, incarcerated. A protestor, also a woman was beheaded recently, for some minor infraction, like speaking out against abuse by the gov.. The Saudi's are brutal leaders, treating their people with utter disdain, allowing absolutely no challenge to their authority.

The Saudi Royal family is a US construct, supported by us, since WW2 as "our dictators." "Pseudo journalists" like Rula, Amy and others supported by our ruling elites are playing politics, and its looking quite obvious, to have something to do with upcoming elections. As despicable as the Republicans are, the Democrats within the Beltway are no better, playing good cop, bad cop. I do vote for local Democrats, but recognize how unimportant and corrupt elections are, if only because mainstream media has been bought, and the people have been blinded.

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