From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 03:53:45 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 22:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace] News from Neptune, August 31, 2018 Message-ID: <5012DDE8-3C76-4FE2-AE38-365D5BE38FA2@gmail.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNAwC0wSQ_4 News From Neptune - Episode #393. Friday, August 31, 2018 {INTRO} Good evening, & welcome to News from Neptune for the 35th week of 2018. I’m Carl Estabrook. Historians consider a generation to be about 25 years - the time it takes for you to get to the age your parents are now. For more than a generation (since 1990), this program has been a weekly hour of spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its coverage by the media - first, on a so-called community radio station - and now via Urbana Public TV and YouTube. (Earlier editions of this program are available at . ) ~ Our program’s name, News from Neptune, comes from Noam Chomsky, who’s been writing sensible things about U.S. politics for two generations and more. ~ Chomsky says that in the U.S. media, “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it’s from Neptune.” Tonight David Green & I will try to say some true things - with thanks to Dr Know, J. B. Nicholson, for research. KNOW’S NOTES are posted on the NEWS FROM NEPTUNE fb page. We try to bear in mind the murdered Rosa Luxemburg’s remark, from a century ago - “The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening.” This is a “Celebrate U.S. Ethics” edition. (The little university down the street is giving an ethics award to a child-killer next week - another indication [were it necessary] of the perversity of both the presidency and the academy). David and I will begin with lists of topics from the week’s news... ======================================== {OUTRO} You've been watching News from Neptune for the 35th week of 2018 on August 31 - the last day of the anniversary month of two great crimes of the 20th century - the U.S. atomic attacks on civilians in two Japanese cities - after the war was won. The point was to kill enough people to deter Russia and proclaim U.S. hegemony over the Asia-Pacific. Not surprisingly, that remains a cornerstone of U.S. foreign policy today, while the U.S. economic empire fights relative decline. News from Neptune is presented by C. G. Estabrook & David Green; - produced & directed by Jason Liggett, Ethan Young, & Andrew Scolari. This has been a “Celebrate U.S. Ethics” edition. (The little university down the street is giving an ethics award to a child-killer next week - another indication [were it necessary] of the perversity of both the presidency and the academy). Our thanks to research director Dr. Know, J. B. Nicholson, the Third Man on News from Neptune. KNOW’S NOTES are posted on the NEWS FROM NEPTUNE fb page. There’s an antiwar demonstration tomorrow in downtown Champaign, from 2 to 4pm, at Main & Neil, sponsored by the Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of C-U (AWARE). Inshallah, we’ll be back next week with a new edition of News from Neptune - to remind you, in the words of Edward de Vere (from *The Tempest*), "...what's past is prologue, what to come In yours and my discharge." In the meantime, confusion to our enemies, and a good night to you. ### From deb.pdamerica at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 09:05:45 2018 From: deb.pdamerica at gmail.com (Debra Schrishuhn) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 04:05:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Move To Amend event Sept 24 Message-ID: We have a lot of work to do on many fronts. Getting rid of corporate personhood would facility progress on many fronts, including deflating the bloated military budget, advancing single-payer health care, safeguarding the integrity of our elections, etc. Hope to see you there! Deb Democratic Revolution vs. Corporate Rule: It’s Up to Us! Monday, September 24th @ 7-9PM Unitarian Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign 309 W Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Free & open to the public. Free childcare is available, please email us the ages of the children. Join Move to Amend’s National Outreach Director Greg Coleridge for an inspiring call-to-action and discussion on the nationwide movement to pass a 28th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to end corporate personhood. ➔ Local Leaders will join Greg and relate Local Issues to this Movement! ➔ Find out about specific actions we can take in Illinois! ➔ Learn the history of how the Supreme Court got us here and what it will take to abolish corporate personhood and get big money out of politics! ➔ Join us to learn how to work with those we elect in November to grow a democratic revolution to prevent corporate rule! ➔ Get personally inspired and motivated to join the movement! Formed in September 2009, Move to Amend is a coalition of over 450,000 people and hundreds of organizations committed to social & economic justice, ending corporate rule, and building a vibrant democracy that is genuinely accountable to the people, not corporate interests. Move to Amend partially finances these tours through the generous donations of event attendees. Join us! Sponsored by The Social Action Committee of the Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, contacts: Doug Jones 217-377-6787 djones42 at gmail.com or Nancy Dietrich 217-337-0334 nancydietrich01 at gmail.com and Move to Amend For more information contact Milly Harmon at barnstorming at movetoamend.org 916-318-8040 MoveToAmend.org From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Sat Sep 1 17:15:41 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:15:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? Message-ID: https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 Obama is coming to the U of I next week. Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war in Yemen - which he started? It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be national news. Should we do it? === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Sat Sep 1 17:16:28 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 12:16:28 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? Message-ID: https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 Obama is coming to the U of I next week. Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war in Yemen - which he started? It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be national news. Should we do it? === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 18:37:14 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 18:37:14 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert A coalition of groups will be protesting Obama at the U of I, on Friday. There are various reasons to protest his presence there. 1) The U of I giving an award for ethics in government to a President that advanced the Bush wars from two to eight, any one of which can be a focus. 2) His bail out of the Bankers, etc. We wish to keep this “firm and dignified” a quote by one, maybe he meant “formal and dignified.” You and anyone else is welcome to join, urging Obama to end the US - Saudi war in Yemen is worthwhile. You are welcome to speak as well. On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:15, Robert Naiman via Peace > wrote: https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 Obama is coming to the U of I next week. Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war in Yemen - which he started? It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be national news. Should we do it? === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 1 18:41:04 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 18:41:04 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, per my previous email in relation to “protesting” this event. You may of course distance yourself from us if you so desire, but don’t be dissuaded by us. Anti-war requires unity and action, even if we aren’t unified as a group. On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:16, Robert Naiman via Peace > wrote: https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 Obama is coming to the U of I next week. Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war in Yemen - which he started? It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be national news. Should we do it? === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Sat Sep 1 18:59:32 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 13:59:32 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there a public announcement of the protest somewhere? I'm open to participating, if the message about ending the Yemen war wouldn't be drowned in the kitchen sink. === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Karen Aram wrote: > Robert, per my previous email in relation to “protesting” this event. You > may of course distance yourself from us if you so desire, but don’t be > dissuaded by us. > > Anti-war requires unity and action, even if we aren’t unified as a group. > > > > > On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:16, Robert Naiman via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 > > https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 > > Obama is coming to the U of I next week. > > Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war > in Yemen - which he started? > > It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama > Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, > have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi > war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. > > If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be > national news. > > Should we do it? > > === > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From niloofar.peace at gmail.com Sun Sep 2 03:16:14 2018 From: niloofar.peace at gmail.com (Niloofar Shambayati) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 22:16:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Obama is coming to the U of I. Should we have a protest against the war in Yemen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I strongly support the idea for its improbable potential to shame the University for honoring him for dedicating his career "to the highest ideals of ethics, fair play and service to country". What an insult to the real public servants who have paid heavily for acting ethically! It would definitely be a great bonus, if Obama is prompted afterward to implicitly admit that he was wrong to "fuel" a dirty war against the people of Yemen to placate the Saudis! Niloofar Shambayati On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Robert Naiman via Peace < peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/justforeignpolicy/posts/10156410923795856 > > https://www.facebook.com/robert.naiman/posts/10157570082077656 > > Obama is coming to the U of I next week. > > Should we have a protest, urging him to call for ending the U.S.-Saudi war > in Yemen - which he started? > > It's not inconceivable that he would do it. Other former Obama > Administration officials, including former UN ambassador Samantha Power, > have acknowledged that the Obama Administration was wrong to back the Saudi > war in Yemen and have called for the war to end. > > If Obama is protested at the U of I over the Yemen war, it could be > national news. > > Should we do it? > > === > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 22:31:44 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 22:31:44 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Protest Announcement/Invitation References: <1691571088.57223.1535927026658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Former President Barack Obama will receive the “Paul H. Douglas Award for Ethics in Government” from the University of Illinois at Foellinger Auditorium on the UIUC campus on Friday, September 7th, 11:00 a.m. He will lecture on “authoritarian politics” and the “responsibilities of citizenship.” In response and protest, a coalition of local peace and social justice groups plans to voice criticism of Obama’s policies and of the appropriateness of this award, beginning at 10:00 a.m. in front (on the north side) of Foellinger. Informed speakers will address Obama’s war-making policies, especially in Libya and Syria, as well as his drone assassination program; his support—even before becoming President—for the bail-out of Wall Street bankers rather than homeowners, and his continuation of neoliberal economic policies that continued to devastate working families throughout his administration; his deportation policies, which were precedent to those of the current administration; and his betrayal of campaign promises made to the labor movement in general and regarding pro-union “card check” (Employee Free Choice Act) legislation in particular. Speakers representing a variety of organizations will have an opportunity to counter the university administration-promoted propaganda inherent in this visit, award, and lecture; and to do so in a truthful and dignified manner that attracts attention to the popular desire for peace and justice, and away from the cult of personality that is inherent in such a visit by a primary representative of American and global ruling elites. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 22:53:36 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 22:53:36 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Protest Announcement/invitation References: <1691571088.57223.1535927026658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Former President Barack Obama will receive the “Paul H. Douglas Award for Ethics in Government” from the University of Illinois at Foellinger Auditorium on the UIUC campus on Friday, September 7th, 11:00 a.m. He will lecture on “authoritarian politics” and the “responsibilities of citizenship.” In response and protest, a coalition of local peace and social justice groups plans to voice criticism of Obama’s policies and of the appropriateness of this award, beginning at 10:00 a.m. in front (on the north side) of Foellinger. Informed speakers will address Obama’s war-making policies, especially in Libya and Syria, as well as his drone assassination program; his support—even before becoming President—for the bail-out of Wall Street bankers rather than homeowners, and his continuation of neoliberal economic policies that continued to devastate working families throughout his administration; his deportation policies, which were precedent to those of the current administration; and his betrayal of campaign promises made to the labor movement in general and regarding pro-union “card check” (Employee Free Choice Act) legislation in particular. Speakers representing a variety of organizations will have an opportunity to counter the university administration-promoted propaganda inherent in this visit, award, and lecture; and to do so in a truthful and dignified manner that attracts attention to the popular desire for peace and justice, and away from the cult of personality that is inherent in such a visit by a primary representative of American and global ruling elites. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 22:53:36 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2018 22:53:36 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Protest Announcement/invitation References: <1691571088.57223.1535927026658@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Former President Barack Obama will receive the “Paul H. Douglas Award for Ethics in Government” from the University of Illinois at Foellinger Auditorium on the UIUC campus on Friday, September 7th, 11:00 a.m. He will lecture on “authoritarian politics” and the “responsibilities of citizenship.” In response and protest, a coalition of local peace and social justice groups plans to voice criticism of Obama’s policies and of the appropriateness of this award, beginning at 10:00 a.m. in front (on the north side) of Foellinger. Informed speakers will address Obama’s war-making policies, especially in Libya and Syria, as well as his drone assassination program; his support—even before becoming President—for the bail-out of Wall Street bankers rather than homeowners, and his continuation of neoliberal economic policies that continued to devastate working families throughout his administration; his deportation policies, which were precedent to those of the current administration; and his betrayal of campaign promises made to the labor movement in general and regarding pro-union “card check” (Employee Free Choice Act) legislation in particular. Speakers representing a variety of organizations will have an opportunity to counter the university administration-promoted propaganda inherent in this visit, award, and lecture; and to do so in a truthful and dignified manner that attracts attention to the popular desire for peace and justice, and away from the cult of personality that is inherent in such a visit by a primary representative of American and global ruling elites. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 3 03:25:33 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 03:25:33 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Essay by Rich Whitney "Taking a Knee" Message-ID: [Go to the profile of Rich Whitney] Rich Whitney Rich Whitney is an attorney, disk jockey, environmental and peace activist, and current Green Party candidate for County Board in Jackson County, Illinois. Sep 2 Why I Choose to Take a Stand — By Taking a Knee The national controversy over those who choose to protest racial injustice in America by placing one knee on the ground during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner doesn’t seem to be going away. The NFL announced a policy last May that any players who protest the anthem while on the field will be subject to discipline from the league. Here in Carbondale, Illinois, where I reside, Southern Illinois University — or, as I like to call it, Self-Impaling University — impaled itself once again by announcing a policy forbidding student athletes, cheerleaders and spirit members from engaging in “displays of activism” while in uniform. Thankfully, after a public outcry, the university quickly reversed itself. Last year, when three black cheerleaders at SIU bravely took a knee before an SIU football game, they were subjected to a sickening barrage of racist vitriol, including death threats, sexual assault threats, and being called the N-word. What galls me especially is when self-appointed guardians of “patriotism” encourage such hatred by proclaiming that taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem is disrespecting the nation and disrespecting American veterans. Here’s a typical example: “Standing for the national anthem is to show respect for our nation, and to honor those who have fought for our country. Freedom isn’t free; to not stand up for those who have served in the military to allow every American to have the opportunities of this great nation, is utterly disrespectful.” Sad to say, our local so-called “representative” in Congress, Mike Bost (12th Congressional District, Illinois) weighed in with similar sentiments by conducting an unscientific “poll” in his taxpayer-supported e-newsletter, before spouting off that he “agrees” with those who “believe that it is disrespectful to the nation and the flag to take a knee — rather than stand — during the playing of the National Anthem.” Added Bost: “I believe Americans owe a debt of gratitude to our nation’s bravest individuals — those who have served and risked their lives in defense of freedom and liberty. As a Marine and the father of a Marine, I believe we must remember the sacrifices of our veterans who have bravely served our nation, as well as show respect to service members currently serving in the U.S. Armed Forces.” There are several things wrong with this claim that protesting during the playing of the national anthem is disrespectful to the nation or to its veterans. First of all, the idea of taking a knee as a form of protest against unjust police killings of people of color in the U.S. came from U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer, who convinced Colin Kaepernick to express his concerns over that injustice in that manner, because it was respectful. (The linked article in Snopes is well worth reading, demonstrating that Kaepernick is an intelligent man who is not seeking to disrespect anyone, but is simply trying to motivate Americans to get serious about addressing an extremely serious problem.) Second, it is this claim, not the protests themselves, that disrespects and frankly insults veterans, because the people making it presume that they are somehow entitled to speak for all veterans, and that all veterans hold the same beliefs. In addition to Mr. Boyer, there are plenty of veterans who support the national-anthem protests, most notably, the thoughtful veterans of Veterans for Peace. Third, this claim equates love of one’s country with love of the military, as if the national anthem is meant to honor the military, not the nation — or that the two are inseparable. Granted, this nation is probably the most militarized in history, long steeped in war, and the lyrics of the Star-Spangled Banner certainly reflect this. Nonetheless, it is the national anthem, not the Pentagon’s anthem, and the ritual of playing it is intended to show respect for the country, not the military and U.S. wars. This is one more instance of self-appointed dogmatic “patriots” glorifying all things military and simply presuming that to be patriotic means to support every act of war by the U.S. — and that every such act must be just, because the U.S. is committing it. Fourth, how is it possibly dishonoring the country or the military to make a symbolic statement to the effect that, “I would like to make my country a better place to live, by calling for an end to the senseless unjustified killing of black people by police?” Yes, I understand the purpose of the ritual — we are supposed to come together as a people, despite our differences, and show our national unity. But that is a fiction. We are not“together as a people” when we allow some of our people to be gunned down by agents of the government, in circumstances where it was not absolutely necessary to protect someone else from being harmed. We are not “together as a people” when, in most cases, the perpetrators of police murder are allowed to escape serious consequences for their actions. The United States has a serious problem with police violence, and if you’re not outraged by it, you haven’t been paying attention. The act of taking a knee is intended to focus people’s attention on that problem until it has been addressed. Only a committed racist or someone completely lacking in empathy could read the accounts of what happened to Tamir Rice, Laquan McDonald, Eric Garner, or John Crawford III, and countless others, and not be angered. The problem of police violence is at once permeated by racism and also transcends it, as (typically poor) white Americans are also victimized by it (something I have personal knowledge of as a civil rights lawyer in Southern Illinois), yet black Americans are victimized roughly three times as frequently, and Native Americans are evidently being shot and killed at an even higher rate. This is not only a terrible injustice in and of itself; it is also a psychological assault, inflicting mental and emotional trauma upon people of color. Police killings in the U.S. provide another instance of “American exceptionalism,” and not in a good way: Our police kill people at a far higher rate than in other industrialized countries, killing more in a matter of days than the police of other nations kill in years. Of course, police violence directed especially against people of color is but one component of a fundamentally unjust, class-based and racist criminal justice system badly in need of overhaul. There are solutions, from sensible proposals to create elected Civilian Police Accountability Councils with real authority to oversee police operations, to an even more thorough transition to Civilian-Led Policing. However, such policy solutions will not be enacted unless and until there is a public groundswell demanding their adoption. Taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem is one small but important symbolic step toward building the kind of solidarity needed to create that groundswell. We must build the kind of movement that cannot be ignored. Finally, there is at least one more flaw in the claim that taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem disrespects those who “risked their lives in defense of freedom and liberty”: The latter claim is simply not true. Let’s be very clear here. No doubt, many of those who chose to serve in our armed forces did so because they honestly believed that they were signing up to protect our nation and its freedoms, and I respect those who did so with that sincere belief. But the fact is that those who “risked their lives” — in Vietnam, Cambodia, Grenada, Lebanon, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria, and all the other nations illegally attacked by the United States since World War II, did not do so “in defense of freedom and liberty,” because not a single one of those nations ever threatened our freedom and liberty, such as it is. Not a single one of those countries ever once threatened to attack, let alone actually attacked, the United States. Some may claim that the invasion of Afghanistan was a justifiable act of “defense” because of the 9/11 attacks. But that claim fails on several grounds. Even if one accepts the official story that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for the attack and was being harbored in Afghanistan, that does not justify invading an entire country, overthrowing its government, and occupying it for 17 years — in order to arrest the perpetrator and his supporters. Such claims ignore the fact that the Taliban government offered to turn over Bin Laden if the U.S. had simply produced evidence that he was responsible for 9/11, but the Bush administration refused the offer, deliberately choosing invasion over a peaceful solution. Such claims also ignore the fact that the invasion of Afghanistan was planned well before 9/11, and was motivated by the Taliban’s failure to cooperate with the U.S. ruling class’s desire to build a pipeline to transport oil from Central Asia and the Caspian region, across western Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. Like all the other wars listed above, those who “risked their lives” were not fighting to defend freedom and liberty. They were used to fight wars of conquest, to assert U.S. control of other nation’s resources, markets, sources of cheap labor, and strategic territories that would facilitate access to the wealth of other nations. Proof of this in each and every instance is beyond the scope of the present article, but I will return to that subject in the future. For now, it will suffice to point out that none of the nations attacked by the United States since World War II ever once threatened to attack the U.S. or threatened its “freedom and liberty.” The claim is simply a lie, and it is not made any more true by its frequent repetition. That is not the fault of the people who fought in those wars; they were used a pawns by a ruling class and its political agents, both Democrat and Republican, who repeatedly sent them into wars fought for the sake of profit and wealth accumulation, not defense of freedom and liberty. But it is still a lie, and the lie must be answered and exposed for what it is. Yes, our freedoms are under attack, but they are under attack from the same national security state and powerful executive branch that misuses our military by sending it overseas to fight for oil, resources and profits for the wealthy owners of U.S. corporations and banks, a national security state that spies on us, assassinates and tortures people, persecutes whistleblowers, infiltrates the media, manufactures consent for war and repeatedly lies to the American people. They are under attack from a Congress that rammed through the USA Patriot Act within weeks of the 9/11 attacks, and that, just last January, supported by leading Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, passed a bill to give the Trump administration greater authority to spy on Americans, immigrants, journalists, dissidents, and everyone else. To me, the U.S.’s shameful record of conducting aggressive wars of conquest, having nothing to do with defense of freedom and everything to do with the accumulation of wealth and profit, is all the more reason to take a knee every time the national anthem is played. It is every bit as shameful as our failure to address the problem of racist police violence. I will not express my “pride” in being a member of a nation that acts as an international outlaw. In all candor, I am not a big fan of “patriotic” displays in the first place. In my view, national chauvinism — this raw sentiment that you are supposed to cheer for your country, no matter how criminally or horribly its government’s actions may be — is a problem to be resisted, not embraced. As George Bernard Shaw famously wrote: “Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it.” The social convention of standing for the national anthem is not the action of a people celebrating freedom and liberty. To the contrary, it smacks of regimentation and group-think, using peer pressure to get everyone to agree that your particular nation-state is the best — not because it actually is, but because you are told to believe it and are threatened with ostracism, verbal abuse or worse if you don’t go along with the crowd. I align myself with Albert Einstein and Eugene V. Debs when it comes to the question of patriotism. As Debs well put it: “In every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the People.” For these reasons, although I have not attended many sporting events in recent years, I have long been a dissenter when it comes for standing for the national anthem. But now I have plenty of good reasons to kneel for it. I will kneel to show solidarity with Colin Kaepernick and with all of my black, brown and Native American brothers and sisters who are suffering from the impacts of police violence. I will kneel because I believe, as a white member of the working class, that it is essential that we show support for our brothers and sisters of all colors, to overcome the divisions of color and perceived “race” (“race” itself being a lieinvented by early colonial capitalism), and unite as workers against our real nemesis — a class-ruled, war-perpetuating economic system that is driving more and more of us into poverty and destroying the environment on which all living things depend. I will kneel as a protest against our nation’s perpetual illegal wars, which have murdered millions of innocent men and women abroad, while robbing our communities of the resources needed to provide quality employment, education and health care for all, modernize our infrastructure and otherwise meet the needs of working people here at home. I love the people of this country (well, most of them anyway), but if I am to love the “United States” as a nation, it must be loveable; if I am to honor the nation, it must act honorably. It hasn’t been doing that. Until it does; until we as a people rise up and address the evils it perpetrates, I am not going to be standing and singing its praises. * Racism * Police Brutality * War * Criminal Justice Reform * Nationalism Like what you read? Give Rich Whitney a round of applause. From a quick cheer to a standing ovation, clap to show how much you enjoyed this story. * Following -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 4 15:44:12 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 15:44:12 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" In-Reply-To: <5DB2C21A-335E-4909-A381-821C340069CE@gmail.com> References: <5DB2C21A-335E-4909-A381-821C340069CE@gmail.com> Message-ID: What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. > > It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." > > It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE > > >> On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: >>> >>> Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] >>> >>> >>> FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu >>> Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. >>> >>> “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' >>> >>> "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... >>> >>> "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. >>> >>> "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' >>> >>> "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" >>> >>> See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." >>> >>> For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: >>> Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 >>> >>> September 4, 2018 >>> >>> Institute for Public Accuracy >>> 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 >>> (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org >>> Sent via ActionNetwork.org. To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace mailing list >> Peace at lists.chambana.net >> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.chambana.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpeace&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a614881f1df45ee383908d61278de3f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716707659411731&sdata=2cnTv94o9CPCZlyjIkEsc0PfuO33IqbSLo71AwziVqw%3D&reserved=0 From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 4 16:02:56 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:02:56 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Rise for Climate, Jobs, and Justice Message-ID: [https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/p112x112/40309732_2078211495840827_3492676549092573184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=79d4285f2494db42ceda12ff60c215b4&oe=5C3234DD] Lois Kain 6 mins · We’ve been a little slow to get all the details nailed down but the event will be an Earth Fair, more or less. Here is the schedule, which will be in the action network discussion with more details as we get them finalized: *Starts at 11:00 with some local music as people come in to the park *11:15, or so, local speakers will start *We will be raffling off two very cool baskets that are donated by Common Ground and Strawberry Fields benefiting our Pollinatarium *after speakers if people gotta move there will be a march around the park *Many local organizations will be tabling with information, petitions to sign, etc. See our sponsors and there will be more tabling *The event ask will be out for people to sign and participate *There is a photo cutout board for kids *Bring a sign, a poster *Bring your own water bottle *For people who don't know, Scott Park is a beautiful little park that Boneyard Creek runs through and across Springfield Ave is Helms Park and the Boneyard Creek Basin. *Parking is all around so people will just have to search. 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Here is the schedule, which will be in the action network discussion with more details as we get them finalized: *Starts at 11:00 with some local music as people come in to the park *11:15, or so, local speakers will start *We will be raffling off two very cool baskets that are donated by Common Ground and Strawberry Fields benefiting our Pollinatarium *after speakers if people gotta move there will be a march around the park *Many local organizations will be tabling with information, petitions to sign, etc. See our sponsors and there will be more tabling *The event ask will be out for people to sign and participate *There is a photo cutout board for kids *Bring a sign, a poster *Bring your own water bottle *For people who don't know, Scott Park is a beautiful little park that Boneyard Creek runs through and across Springfield Ave is Helms Park and the Boneyard Creek Basin. *Parking is all around so people will just have to search. 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If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook > wrote: Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Tue Sep 4 17:12:11 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:12:11 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" In-Reply-To: References: <5DB2C21A-335E-4909-A381-821C340069CE@gmail.com> <9DD8DF55-9FC7-4C31-A90E-B0CF51D3EA53@gmail.com> Message-ID: Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: > > ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. > 18 BC) > > = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > > What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of > his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is > only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. > > https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I > > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s > lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in > civilized countries. > > It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics > program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time > Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly > growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." > > It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other > social supports. —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: > > > Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] > > > FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu > > Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois > College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are > Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle > Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats > will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under > cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis > Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. > > “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You > need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the > jugular.' > > "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate > Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal > establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a > lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... > > "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are > planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. > > "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to > ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of > saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it > tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' > > "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage > Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme > Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a > legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier > for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make > the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be > bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for > women.'" > > See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." > > For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: > Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 > > September 4, 2018 > > Institute for Public Accuracy > 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 > (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org > > * ipa at accuracy.org > Sent via ActionNetwork.org > . > To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop > receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.chambana.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Fpeace&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a614881f1df45ee383908d61278de3f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716707659411731&sdata= > 2cnTv94o9CPCZlyjIkEsc0PfuO33IqbSLo71AwziVqw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moboct1 at aim.com Tue Sep 4 17:29:57 2018 From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 13:29:57 -0400 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) Midge -----Original Message----- From: Robert Naiman via Peace To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC) = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From deb.pdamerica at gmail.com Tue Sep 4 17:54:01 2018 From: deb.pdamerica at gmail.com (Debra Schrishuhn) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:54:01 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" In-Reply-To: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> References: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent. That point has been well proven. Deb Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace wrote: > > Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) > > Midge > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Naiman via Peace > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace > Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm > Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" > > > Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? > > Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. > > Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? > > Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? > > Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? > > > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: > I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: > > ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC) > > = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > > What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. > > https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. > > It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." > > It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: > > Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] > > > FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu > Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. > > “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' > > "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... > > "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. > > "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' > > "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" > > See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." > > For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: > Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 > > September 4, 2018 > > Institute for Public Accuracy > 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 > (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org > Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Tue Sep 4 17:56:35 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 12:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" In-Reply-To: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> References: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: I know Robert Weissman well. He's a good man. We've been friends for many many years. His hatred of the Empire is pure. He sees these things through a Democratic DC lens and makes no bones about it. He didn't support Ralph's run for President in 2000, even though he was a key Ralph lieutenant at the time. And still is. Therefore, I wouldn't take Rob's words as Gospel on the strategic value of this fight. He knows that Public Citizen can raise money and sign people up for the Public Citizen list based on positioning itself as opposed to Kavanaugh's confirmation. I doubt he would publicly sign his name to the claim that Kavanaugh's confirmation can be stopped. I don't think he could personally stomach that much lying. === Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien wrote: > Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of > Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) > > Midge > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Naiman via Peace > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace > Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm > Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are > Astronomical" > > > Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? > > Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is > expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. > Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the > "stakes" are zero. > > Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? > > Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? > > Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention > on it? > > > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: > > ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. > 18 BC) > > = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > > What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of > his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is > only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. > > https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nzfiw > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fBjaPPzu1I > > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s > lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in > civilized countries. > > It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics > program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time > Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly > growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." > > It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other > social supports. —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: > > > Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] > > > FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu > > Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois > College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are > Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle > Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats > will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under > cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis > Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. > > “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You > need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the > jugular.' > > "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate > Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal > establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a > lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... > > "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are > planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. > > "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to > ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of > saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it > tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' > > "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage > Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme > Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a > legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier > for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make > the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be > bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for > women.'" > > See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." > > For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: > Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 > > September 4, 2018 > > Institute for Public Accuracy > 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 > (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org > > * ipa at accuracy.org > Sent via ActionNetwork.org > . > To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop > receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https% > 3A%2F%2Flists.chambana.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpeace& > data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a614881f1df45ee383908d61278de3f%7C84df9e7 > fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636716707659411731&sdata > =2cnTv94o9CPCZlyjIkEsc0PfuO33IqbSLo71AwziVqw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 12:53:06 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 07:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Peace] AWARE on the Air, Sept. 4 Message-ID: <4426A001-B7DC-4D66-87F8-BA0BA698A3D3@gmail.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UrtW4tepzM AWARE ON THE AIR is presented by members and friends of AWARE, the Anti-War Anti-Racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana, a local peace group, and recorded In the studios of Urbana Public Television on September 4, in the 36th week of 2018 - another week in which the world can see that the most extensive global terrorism is US world-wide war-making. ~ Our show Is produced and directed by Jason Liggett & Crofton Coleman - thanks to whom also this program & others like it will be available on YouTube & . ~ Our show tonight was largely written by Dr. Know/J. B. Nicholson. See Know’s Notes on the FB page for AOTA, along with links to articles referred to tonight >. ~ There’s a demonstration against Obama’s speech on campus this Friday. Karen Aram writes, ‘Former President Barack Obama will receive the “Paul H. Douglas Award for Ethics in Government” from the University of Illinois at Foellinger Auditorium on the UIUC campus on Friday, September 7th, 11:00 a.m. He will lecture on “authoritarian politics” and the “responsibilities of citizenship.” ‘In response and protest, a coalition of local peace and social justice groups plans to voice criticism of Obama’s policies and of the appropriateness of this award, beginning at 10:00 a.m. in front (on the north side) of Foellinger. ‘Informed speakers will address Obama’s war-making policies, especially in Libya and Syria, as well as his drone assassination program; his support—even before becoming President—for the bail-out of Wall Street bankers rather than homeowners, and his continuation of neoliberal economic policies that continued to devastate working families throughout his administration; his deportation policies, which were precedent to those of the current administration; and his betrayal of campaign promises made to the labor movement in general and regarding pro-union “card check” (Employee Free Choice Act) legislation in particular. ‘Speakers representing a variety of organizations will have an opportunity to counter the university administration-promoted propaganda inherent in this visit, award, and lecture; and to do so in a truthful and dignified manner that attracts attention to the popular desire for peace and justice, and away from the cult of personality that is inherent in such a visit by a primary representative of American and global ruling elites.’ ~ There’s an open AWARE meeting this coming Sunday, 5-6pm - at Hammerhead Coffee, University Avenue at Wright Street on the NW edge of the campus. ~ Finally, AWARE honors those who reveal the crimes of the US government - which the rest of the world knows about, but Americans don't - Manning, Assange, Snowden, and others - who are truth-tellers persecuted by the US government. - particularly our 'liberal Democrat' Sen. Durbin, a shill for the Russiagate propaganda. ~ Now this is Carl Estabrook for members & friends of the Anti-war Anti-racism Effort of Champaign-Urbana - saying in the words of the late Edward Murrow, “Good night - and good luck." ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bjornsona at ameritech.net Wed Sep 5 15:16:04 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (Anne Parkinson) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical" In-Reply-To: <1536103392070.fied0x1tjyozurb5ak5si3gf@android.mail.163.com> References: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> <1536103392070.fied0x1tjyozurb5ak5si3gf@android.mail.163.com> Message-ID: <1426663028.1770867.1536160564219@mail.yahoo.com> Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose an anti-racism forum. Quotes do not excuse you. Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss wrote: it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly, racist. one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like Francis Boil.  i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to the right to kill babies is evil. it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate.  but saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special interest. On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss Wrote: Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent.  That point has been well proven. Deb Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace wrote: Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)?  (I'll try forwarding it) Midge -----Original Message----- From: Robert Naiman via Peace To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax?  Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero.  Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense?  Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties?  Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it?  Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC)  = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Wed Sep 5 16:03:17 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:03:17 +0000 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical" In-Reply-To: <1426663028.1770867.1536160564219@mail.yahoo.com> References: <165a5a23a5c-1ebb-116c7@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> <1536103392070.fied0x1tjyozurb5ak5si3gf@android.mail.163.com> <1426663028.1770867.1536160564219@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Anne, its called “How to kill the Peace movement.” On Sep 5, 2018, at 08:16, Anne Parkinson > wrote: Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose an anti-racism forum. Quotes do not excuse you. Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss > wrote: it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly, racist. one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like Francis Boil. i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to the right to kill babies is evil. it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate. but saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special interest. On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss Wrote: Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent. That point has been well proven. Deb Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace > wrote: Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) Midge -----Original Message----- From: Robert Naiman via Peace > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss >; Peace > Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > wrote: I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook > wrote: ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC) = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram > wrote: What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook > wrote: Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Wed Sep 5 16:42:58 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 11:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Peace] News-Gazette clarification of Obama itinerary Message-ID: X-PRESIDENT'S Ul VISIT 944 students win lottery to see Obama 22,000 signed up for chance at Huff Hall seat for speech By JULIE WURTH jwurth at news-gazette.com URBANA — Almost 950 students at the University of Illinois won the Obama lottery Tuesday night. UI officials notified 944 students, including 756 at the Urbana campus, that they had been selected to attend Friday’s speech by former President Barack Obama, who will visit the UI to receive an ethicsin- government award. Another 141 are from the UI Chicago, and 47 are from the UI Springfield. A viewing party has also been scheduled at Huff Hall for Friday morning’s speech, with room for about 4,000 students. More than 22,000 students at the Urbana campus alone had thrown in their names for a coveted seat at Foellinger Auditorium, which normally has a capacity of about 1,300. UI spokeswoman Robin Kaler said some seats have to be removed to accommodate television cameras, and the bulk of the remaining seats will go to members of the media. Others are reserved for administrators from each campus and dignitaries, she said. Students were notified about 7:30 p.m. Tuesday. Kaler said tickets were given out to a randomized list of students who had entered the lottery, the same way that lotteries for concerts and other popular events are handled. Obama is being honored the Paul H. Douglas Ethics in Government Award from the UI’s Institute of Government and Public Affairs, a university- system-level unit. He will be honored at a private ceremony following his 11 a.m. speech at Foellinger. The former president opted to come to the Urbana campus to receive the award, rather than Chicago or Washington, D.C., where he now lives. A spokeswoman said last week he liked the idea of going downstate to meet with students and to illustrate the need for Democrats to reach out to all kinds of voters, not just those in major urban areas. Some students who were not selected in the lottery expressed their disappointment on Reddit and Twitter. “Finding out President Obama is coming to campus only to not win a ticket is the ultimate emotional roller coaster,” wrote Connor Durm. The UI ticket notice, posted by one user on Reddit, urged those who did not receive tickets to tune in to the livestream of the broadcast at go.illinois.edu/live or attend the viewing party at Huff Hall Gymnasium, 1206 S. Fourth St., C. Doors to Huff will open at 9 a.m. Space is limited, and there will be no admittance after 10:30 a.m., according to the notice. 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On Sep 5, 2018, at 09:42, David Green > wrote: X-PRESIDENT'S Ul VISIT 944 students win lottery to see Obama 22,000 signed up for chance at Huff Hall seat for speech By JULIE WURTH jwurth at news-gazette.com URBANA — Almost 950 students at the University of Illinois won the Obama lottery Tuesday night. UI officials notified 944 students, including 756 at the Urbana campus, that they had been selected to attend Friday’s speech by former President Barack Obama, who will visit the UI to receive an ethicsin- government award. Another 141 are from the UI Chicago, and 47 are from the UI Springfield. A viewing party has also been scheduled at Huff Hall for Friday morning’s speech, with room for about 4,000 students. More than 22,000 students at the Urbana campus alone had thrown in their names for a coveted seat at Foellinger Auditorium, which normally has a capacity of about 1,300. UI spokeswoman Robin Kaler said some seats have to be removed to accommodate television cameras, and the bulk of the remaining seats will go to members of the media. Others are reserved for administrators from each campus and dignitaries, she said. Students were notified about 7:30 p.m. Tuesday. Kaler said tickets were given out to a randomized list of students who had entered the lottery, the same way that lotteries for concerts and other popular events are handled. Obama is being honored the Paul H. Douglas Ethics in Government Award from the UI’s Institute of Government and Public Affairs, a university- system-level unit. He will be honored at a private ceremony following his 11 a.m. speech at Foellinger. The former president opted to come to the Urbana campus to receive the award, rather than Chicago or Washington, D.C., where he now lives. A spokeswoman said last week he liked the idea of going downstate to meet with students and to illustrate the need for Democrats to reach out to all kinds of voters, not just those in major urban areas. Some students who were not selected in the lottery expressed their disappointment on Reddit and Twitter. “Finding out President Obama is coming to campus only to not win a ticket is the ultimate emotional roller coaster,” wrote Connor Durm. The UI ticket notice, posted by one user on Reddit, urged those who did not receive tickets to tune in to the livestream of the broadcast at go.illinois.edu/live or attend the viewing party at Huff Hall Gymnasium, 1206 S. Fourth St., C. Doors to Huff will open at 9 a.m. Space is limited, and there will be no admittance after 10:30 a.m., according to the notice. 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Interesting that you choose an anti-racism forum.” > > But it applies to your article as well. > On Sep 5, 2018, at 15:23, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Come on. I can’t do it single-handed. > > I’m actually a Russian agent, promoting war with Russia (why?) by urging the peace movement to think about the implications of their principles. > > Uncomfortable as that may be. > > Good liberals respond as is their wont - with censorship. My posts are excluded from the peace [sic] list. > > —CGE > > >> On Sep 5, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >> >> Anne, its called “How to kill the Peace movement.” > > > From today’s News-Gazette: > > . > > —CGE > >> >> >>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 08:16, Anne Parkinson wrote: >>> >>> Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose an anti-racism forum. >>> >>> Quotes do not excuse you. >>> >>> Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss wrote: >>> >>> >>> it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly, racist. >>> >>> one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like Francis Boil. i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to the right to kill babies is evil. >>> it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate. but saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special interest. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss Wrote: >>> >>> Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent. That point has been well proven. >>> Deb >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace wrote: >>> >>>> Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) >>>> >>>> Midge >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Robert Naiman via Peace >>>> To: Karen Aram >>>> Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace >>>> Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" >>>> >>>> >>>> Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? >>>> >>>> Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. >>>> >>>> Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? >>>> >>>> Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? >>>> >>>> Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert Naiman >>>> Policy Director >>>> Just Foreign Policy >>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org >>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org >>>> (202) 448-2898 x1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: >>>> I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. >>>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: >>>> >>>> ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC) >>>> >>>> = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: >>>> >>>> What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. >>>> >>>> https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: >>>> >>>> Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. >>>> >>>> It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." >>>> >>>> It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: >>>> >>>> Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] >>>> >>>> >>>> FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu >>>> Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. >>>> >>>> “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' >>>> >>>> "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... >>>> >>>> "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. >>>> >>>> "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' >>>> >>>> "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" >>>> >>>> See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." >>>> >>>> For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: >>>> Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 >>>> >>>> September 4, 2018 >>>> >>>> Institute for Public Accuracy >>>> 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 >>>> (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org >>>> Sent via ActionNetwork.org. To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://eur04.safelinks. protection.outlook.com/?url= https%3A%2F%2Flists.chambana. net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% 2Fpeace&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C4a614881f1df45ee383908d61278 de3f% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636716707659411731& sdata= 2cnTv94o9CPCZlyjIkEsc0PfuO33Iq bSLo71AwziVqw%3D&reserved= 0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________ _________________ >>>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Peace mailing list >>>> Peace at lists.chambana.net >>>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Peace-discuss mailing list >>> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >>> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Peace-discuss mailing list >> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net >> https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss From moboct1 at aim.com Thu Sep 6 13:21:15 2018 From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:21:15 -0400 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <165af0b4485-1ebb-1753@webjas-vac210.srv.aolmail.net> My purpose in forwarding the email from Robert Weissman/Public Citizen was to emphasize there are other objections to Kavanaugh's appointment besides the RvW issue. Defenders on both sides of the issue seem to be focused on just one. (He gave a very good interview yesterday on Democracy Now). Midge -----Original Message----- From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss To: Anne Parkinson Cc: naiman ; peace-discuss ; Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss ; peace Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:03 am Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical" Anne, its called “How to kill the Peace movement.” On Sep 5, 2018, at 08:16, Anne Parkinson wrote: Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose an anti-racism forum. Quotes do not excuse you. Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss wrote: it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly, racist. one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like Francis Boil. i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to the right to kill babies is evil. it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate. but saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special interest. On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss Wrote: Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to remain silent. That point has been well proven. Deb Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace wrote: Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) Midge -----Original Message----- From: Robert Naiman via Peace To: Karen Aram Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the "stakes" are zero. Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention on it? Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss wrote: I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. 18 BC) = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in civilized countries. It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other social supports. —CGE On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace wrote: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the jugular.' "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for women.'" See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 September 4, 2018 Institute for Public Accuracy 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org * ipa at accuracy.org Sent via ActionNetwork.org. 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URL: From moboct1 at aim.com Thu Sep 6 13:38:30 2018 From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:38:30 -0400 Subject: [Peace] News-Gazette clarification of Obama itinerary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <165af1b0d6b-1ebf-1938@webjas-vaa009.srv.aolmail.net> The "winners" probably had to buy their lottery tickets to help subsidize his Jackson Park "Library" MO'B -----Original Message----- From: Karen Aram via Peace To: David Green Cc: Francis A Boyle ; Peace-discuss List (peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net) ; peace Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:47 am Subject: Re: [Peace] News-Gazette clarification of Obama itinerary Our demonstration will begin 10:30 am, as close to Foellinger as we can get. Meeting at the South door of the Student Union, facing the Quad, at about 9:40am. On Sep 5, 2018, at 09:42, David Green wrote: X-PRESIDENT'S Ul VISIT 944 students win lottery to see Obama 22,000 signed up for chance at Huff Hall seat for speech By JULIE WURTH jwurth at news-gazette.com URBANA — Almost 950 students at the University of Illinois won the Obama lottery Tuesday night. UI officials notified 944 students, including 756 at the Urbana campus, that they had been selected to attend Friday’s speech by former President Barack Obama, who will visit the UI to receive an ethicsin- government award. Another 141 are from the UI Chicago, and 47 are from the UI Springfield. A viewing party has also been scheduled at Huff Hall for Friday morning’s speech, with room for about 4,000 students. More than 22,000 students at the Urbana campus alone had thrown in their names for a coveted seat at Foellinger Auditorium, which normally has a capacity of about 1,300. UI spokeswoman Robin Kaler said some seats have to be removed to accommodate television cameras, and the bulk of the remaining seats will go to members of the media. Others are reserved for administrators from each campus and dignitaries, she said. Students were notified about 7:30 p.m. Tuesday. Kaler said tickets were given out to a randomized list of students who had entered the lottery, the same way that lotteries for concerts and other popular events are handled. Obama is being honored the Paul H. Douglas Ethics in Government Award from the UI’s Institute of Government and Public Affairs, a university- system-level unit. He will be honored at a private ceremony following his 11 a.m. speech at Foellinger. The former president opted to come to the Urbana campus to receive the award, rather than Chicago or Washington, D.C., where he now lives. A spokeswoman said last week he liked the idea of going downstate to meet with students and to illustrate the need for Democrats to reach out to all kinds of voters, not just those in major urban areas. Some students who were not selected in the lottery expressed their disappointment on Reddit and Twitter. “Finding out President Obama is coming to campus only to not win a ticket is the ultimate emotional roller coaster,” wrote Connor Durm. The UI ticket notice, posted by one user on Reddit, urged those who did not receive tickets to tune in to the livestream of the broadcast at go.illinois.edu/live or attend the viewing party at Huff Hall Gymnasium, 1206 S. Fourth St., C. Doors to Huff will open at 9 a.m. Space is limited, and there will be no admittance after 10:30 a.m., according to the notice. Students also must show a university ID to get in and won’t be able to bring backpacks, bags, signs, megaphones, food, drinks or umbrellas inside, or “any other items that university police determine pose a risk to safety or a disruption of the event.” _______________________________________________Peace mailing listPeace at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Thu Sep 6 14:15:19 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes areAstronomical" In-Reply-To: <165af0b4485-1ebb-1753@webjas-vac210.srv.aolmail.net> References: <165af0b4485-1ebb-1753@webjas-vac210.srv.aolmail.net> Message-ID: Yes, all of that is certainly true. In particular, Kavanaugh's public statement that the Nixon case was "wrongly decided" is extremely troubling. According to the New York Times yesterday, "senior Trump Administration officials" are bragging that they are "saving us from Trump" by counter-manding his orders. But these unelected and unnamed officials are unilaterally deciding what to counter-mand and what to enable. This is not democracy or constitutional government. The President - this president or any other- should be constrained according to the Constitution, by the other branches of government, not by unnamed and unelected and unaccountable executive branch officials. But apparently Kavanaugh doesn't believe in that, and that is very, very bad. Kavanaugh apparently believes that this president and any other are above the law as long as they remain in office, and that the only remedy is impeachment. Impeachment is fine but, being extremely difficult, it should not be the only remedy; and under the Constitution as written, it is not the only remedy. Robert Naiman Policy Director Just Foreign Policy www.justforeignpolicy.org naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (202) 448-2898 x1 On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:21 AM, Mildred O'brien via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > My purpose in forwarding the email from Robert Weissman/Public Citizen was > to emphasize there are other objections to Kavanaugh's appointment besides > the RvW issue. Defenders on both sides of the issue seem to be focused on > just one. (He gave a very good interview yesterday on Democracy Now). > > Midge > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Aram via Peace-discuss > To: Anne Parkinson > Cc: naiman ; peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; peace > Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 11:03 am > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes > areAstronomical" > > Anne, its called “How to kill the Peace movement.” > > > On Sep 5, 2018, at 08:16, Anne Parkinson wrote: > > Apparently wayne is willing to be as obnoxious as possible. Calling you > out on your use of the n-word, wayne, my boy. Interesting that you choose > an anti-racism forum. > > Quotes do not excuse you. > > Tired of the subject carl and wayne seem to know so much about. > > > On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:23 PM, ewj via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > > it really is a strange thing that the relentless killing of "nigger > babies" is good and any threat, real or imagined, to slow or halt this > carnage is declared evil, an affront to women's health, and most absurdly, > racist. > > one is not surprised by the rantings of a functional illiterate like > Francis Boil. i am somewhat amused to see women saying that any threat to > the right to kill babies is evil. > it is one thing to be merciful toward those who are unfortunate. but > saying it is evil to oppose the killing of innocents is a very special > interest. > > > > > > On 2018-09-05 01:54 , Debra Schrishuhn via Peace-discuss > Wrote: > > Just because the odds of success are small is no reason not to engage the > battle. It is a cliche, but all that is needed for evil to flourish is for > good people to remain silent. That point has been well proven. > Deb > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Mildred O'brien via Peace < > peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > Did you see what Robert Weissman/Public Citizen had to say on the topic of > Scotus (sans Roe v Wade)? (I'll try forwarding it) > > Midge > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Naiman via Peace > To: Karen Aram > Cc: peace-discuss ; Peace > Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2018 12:12 pm > Subject: Re: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Kavanaugh: "Stakes are > Astronomical" > > > Isn't the whole Kavanaugh show a bipartisan hoax? > > Democrats don't have the votes to block Kavanaugh. Every Republican is > expected to vote to confirm. Republicans have the majority in the Senate. > Therefore, the ultimate outcome is a foregone conclusion. Therefore, the > "stakes" are zero. > > Why the Kabuki? Why the pretense? > > Isn't it just a fundraising and mobilization exercise for both parties? > > Why should we, people who care about issues, waste any time or attention > on it? > > > > Robert Naiman > Policy Director > Just Foreign Policy > www.justforeignpolicy.org > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org > (202) 448-2898 x1 > > > > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Karen Aram via Peace-discuss < > peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > > I think the statement by Horace and Homer, applies to you. > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:55, C G Estabrook wrote: > > ...indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. --Horace in Ars Poetica (c. > 18 BC) > > = even Homer nods (i.e., even a great person makes mistakes). —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Karen Aram wrote: > > What does Chomsky have to say about this issue? If you are a devotee of > his, then you should be noting what he has to say on this topic, which is > only one of the concerns over a right wing ideologue like Kavanaugh. > > https://www.dailymotion.com/ video/x2nzfiw > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=6fBjaPPzu1I > > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 08:12, C G Estabrook wrote: > > Roe encourages the poor - and all women - to end their unborn children’s > lives, instead of demanding free healthcare, child supports, etc. as in > civilized countries. > > It was meant to save the rich money by what is essentially a eugenics > program. SC Justice R. B. Ginsburg: "Frankly I had thought that at the time > Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly > growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of." > > It should be overturned and Medicare for all enacted, along with other > social supports. —CGE > > > On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: > > > Kavanaugh: "Stakes are Astronomical" -- Interviews Available [on Twitter] > > > FRANCIS BOYLE, fboyle at illinois.edu > > Boyle is professor of international law at the University of Illinois > College of Law. He is quoted in a Guardian overview "'The Stakes are > Astronomical': Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing Will be a Battle > Royale," which states: “'The only hope the country has is that Democrats > will treat Kavanaugh like a hostile witness on the witness stand under > cross-examination, throw him off script and break him down,' said Francis > Boyle, a law professor at the University of Illinois. > > “'You do not need a gentleman or gentlewoman to deal with Kavanaugh. You > need a district attorney. Some Democrats are going to have to go for the > jugular.' > > "But Kavanaugh, 53, is no Daniel in the lions’ den. He is the ultimate > Washington insider, steeped in the city’s political and legal > establishments. His father spent more than two decades in the city as a > lobbyist for the cosmetics industry. ... > > "The groups Women’s March and Center for Popular Democracy Action are > planning a day of action in Washington on Tuesday. > > "Boyle ... shares these concerns. 'I think Kavanaugh was put on there to > ensure Roe is overturned,' he said. 'He has used the Roberts dodge of > saying it is settled law. So what? The Supreme Court can unsettle it > tomorrow. He did not say it was decided correctly.' > > "Critics note that Trump has relied heavily on the rightwing Heritage > Foundation and Federalist Society to develop his shortlist for Supreme > Court nominations. Boyle said: 'Kavanaugh is an extreme ideologue and a > legal hatchet man for the Federalist Society. He was their spear carrier > for years. He is being put on there by Trump to do their business and make > the court as far right as he can under the circumstances. It’s going to be > bad for a lot of people: for gays, for African Americans, for labour, for > women.'" > > See IPA news release: "Kavanaugh and the Federalist Society." > > For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: > Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020 > > September 4, 2018 > > Institute for Public Accuracy > 980 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 > (202) 347-0020 * accuracy.org > > * ipa at accuracy.org > Sent via ActionNetwork.org > . > To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop > receiving emails from Institute for Public Accuracy, please click here. > > > > ______________________________ _________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://eur04.safelinks. protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Flists.chambana. net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo% > 2Fpeace&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C4a614881f1df45ee383908d61278 de3f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636716707659411731& sdata= > 2cnTv94o9CPCZlyjIkEsc0PfuO33Iq bSLo71AwziVqw%3D&reserved= 0 > > > > > > ______________________________ _________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana. net > https://lists.chambana.net/ mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace mailing list > Peace at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing > list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/ > mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Obama: - Bombed 7 Muslim majority countries - Dropped 26,1717 bombs in 2016 alone - Personally maintained a ''Secret Kill List'' - Initiated a secret drone war in Yemen - Deported a record 2 million immigrants , earning him the title “deporter-in-chief” - Detained immigrant children separate from their families - like Trump - Drastically expanded the power of ICE - Backed literal Nazis in the Ukraine - Deployed special forces to 134 countries (compared to 60 under G.W. Bush) - Supported Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine - Assassinated 4 U.S. citizens - Repealed the propaganda ban, allowing government propaganda to be spread via news outlets - Vastly expanded the NSA spying program - Extended the Patriot Act - Failed to prosecute anyone responsible for the 2007-08 financial crisis https://www.nbcnews.com/…/u-s-bombed-iraq-syria-pakistan-af… https://www.theguardian.com/…/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2… https://www.commondreams.org/…/obama-personally-oversees-se… https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://www.thenation.com/…/why-has-president-obama-deport…/ https://www.realclearpolitics.com/…/obama_dhs_sec_jeh_johns… https://www.thenation.com/…/the-deportation-machine-obama-…/ https://www.thenation.com/…/americas-collusion-with-neo-na…/ https://www.salon.com/…/americas_secret_military_is_a_mass…/ http://original.antiwar.com/…/thank-you-president-obama-lo…/ https://www.democracynow.org/…/obama_admin_admits_for_first… https://foreignpolicy.com/…/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spr…/ https://www.commondreams.org/…/bush-era-spying-made-legal-u… http://thehill.com/…/146173-obama-signs-patriot-act-extensi… https://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/chickenshit-club_us_5963fc… -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Obama: - Bombed 7 Muslim majority countries - Dropped 26,1717 bombs in 2016 alone - Personally maintained a ''Secret Kill List'' - Initiated a secret drone war in Yemen - Deported a record 2 million immigrants , earning him the title “deporter-in-chief” - Detained immigrant children separate from their families - like Trump - Drastically expanded the power of ICE - Backed literal Nazis in the Ukraine - Deployed special forces to 134 countries (compared to 60 under G.W. Bush) - Supported Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine - Assassinated 4 U.S. citizens - Repealed the propaganda ban, allowing government propaganda to be spread via news outlets - Vastly expanded the NSA spying program - Extended the Patriot Act - Failed to prosecute anyone responsible for the 2007-08 financial crisis https://www.nbcnews.com/…/u-s-bombed-iraq-syria-pakistan-af… https://www.theguardian.com/…/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2… https://www.commondreams.org/…/obama-personally-oversees-se… https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://www.thenation.com/…/why-has-president-obama-deport…/ https://www.realclearpolitics.com/…/obama_dhs_sec_jeh_johns… https://www.thenation.com/…/the-deportation-machine-obama-…/ https://www.thenation.com/…/americas-collusion-with-neo-na…/ https://www.salon.com/…/americas_secret_military_is_a_mass…/ http://original.antiwar.com/…/thank-you-president-obama-lo…/ https://www.democracynow.org/…/obama_admin_admits_for_first… https://foreignpolicy.com/…/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spr…/ https://www.commondreams.org/…/bush-era-spying-made-legal-u… http://thehill.com/…/146173-obama-signs-patriot-act-extensi… https://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/chickenshit-club_us_5963fc… -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Party for Socialism and Liberation - Champaign-Urbana passed out the following fact sheet before the event. Citations at the bottom. Obama: - Bombed 7 Muslim majority countries - Dropped 26,1717 bombs in 2016 alone - Personally maintained a ''Secret Kill List'' - Initiated a secret drone war in Yemen - Deported a record 2 million immigrants , earning him the title “deporter-in-chief” - Detained immigrant children separate from their families - like Trump - Drastically expanded the power of ICE - Backed literal Nazis in the Ukraine - Deployed special forces to 134 countries (compared to 60 under G.W. Bush) - Supported Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine - Assassinated 4 U.S. citizens - Repealed the propaganda ban, allowing government propaganda to be spread via news outlets - Vastly expanded the NSA spying program - Extended the Patriot Act - Failed to prosecute anyone responsible for the 2007-08 financial crisis https://www.nbcnews.com/…/u-s-bombed-iraq-syria-pakistan-af… https://www.theguardian.com/…/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2… https://www.commondreams.org/…/obama-personally-oversees-se… https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://www.thenation.com/…/why-has-president-obama-deport…/ https://www.realclearpolitics.com/…/obama_dhs_sec_jeh_johns… https://www.thenation.com/…/the-deportation-machine-obama-…/ https://www.thenation.com/…/americas-collusion-with-neo-na…/ https://www.salon.com/…/americas_secret_military_is_a_mass…/ http://original.antiwar.com/…/thank-you-president-obama-lo…/ https://www.democracynow.org/…/obama_admin_admits_for_first… https://foreignpolicy.com/…/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spr…/ https://www.commondreams.org/…/bush-era-spying-made-legal-u… http://thehill.com/…/146173-obama-signs-patriot-act-extensi… https://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/chickenshit-club_us_5963fc… _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Fri Sep 7 22:44:06 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 22:44:06 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Protesting Obama, and the the U of I In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Harry Mickalide was also there distributing the flyers, thank you Harry. On Sep 7, 2018, at 14:49, Karen Aram via Peace > wrote: Thank you to all those, who attended our demonstration at the U of I today, protesting their presentation of an award to Obama for “ethics in government.” In addition to speakers Prof. Francis Boyle, and David Green, special thanks to Peter Sentz, Ashley Domek and Brandon Tagonism, for their distribution of the PSL (Party for Socialism and Liberation) flyer, and most of all to Peter for his speech reading the flyer. I will upload the VDO when its available. Please see below the flyer: Obama is accepting an award for ''ethics'' today at UIUC. Party for Socialism and Liberation - Champaign-Urbana passed out the following fact sheet before the event. Citations at the bottom. Obama: - Bombed 7 Muslim majority countries - Dropped 26,1717 bombs in 2016 alone - Personally maintained a ''Secret Kill List'' - Initiated a secret drone war in Yemen - Deported a record 2 million immigrants , earning him the title “deporter-in-chief” - Detained immigrant children separate from their families - like Trump - Drastically expanded the power of ICE - Backed literal Nazis in the Ukraine - Deployed special forces to 134 countries (compared to 60 under G.W. Bush) - Supported Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestine - Assassinated 4 U.S. citizens - Repealed the propaganda ban, allowing government propaganda to be spread via news outlets - Vastly expanded the NSA spying program - Extended the Patriot Act - Failed to prosecute anyone responsible for the 2007-08 financial crisis https://www.nbcnews.com/…/u-s-bombed-iraq-syria-pakistan-af… https://www.theguardian.com/…/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2… https://www.commondreams.org/…/obama-personally-oversees-se… https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/ https://www.thenation.com/…/why-has-president-obama-deport…/ https://www.realclearpolitics.com/…/obama_dhs_sec_jeh_johns… https://www.thenation.com/…/the-deportation-machine-obama-…/ https://www.thenation.com/…/americas-collusion-with-neo-na…/ https://www.salon.com/…/americas_secret_military_is_a_mass…/ http://original.antiwar.com/…/thank-you-president-obama-lo…/ https://www.democracynow.org/…/obama_admin_admits_for_first… https://foreignpolicy.com/…/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spr…/ https://www.commondreams.org/…/bush-era-spying-made-legal-u… http://thehill.com/…/146173-obama-signs-patriot-act-extensi… https://www.huffingtonpost.com/…/chickenshit-club_us_5963fc… _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 8 12:34:22 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 12:34:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Obama's speech at the U of I Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Obama speech escalates factional warfare against Trump By Barry Grey 8 September 2018 In a speech Friday at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, former President Barack Obama publicly joined the escalating offensive against President Trump being mounted by sections of the ruling class and the state. The speech, directed at channeling both popular and ruling class opposition to the Trump administration behind the Democrats in the fall midterm elections, marked Obama’s first direct attack on his successor. Obama’s speech came as the culmination of a series of extraordinary events over the past two weeks that have brought the acute political crisis in the US to a new and explosive level of intensity. First came the week-long spectacle of bipartisan hypocrisy and political reaction occasioned by the death of Republican Senator John McCain, one of the most ferocious war-mongers in the US political establishment. Democrats sought to outdo the Republicans in eulogizing McCain as an “American hero” and model statesman. Within two days of McCain’s burial, the media was ablaze with revelations from the forthcoming book on the Trump White House by Washington Posteditor Bob Woodward. Woodward, citing anonymous interviews with high-ranking Trump officials, paints a picture of turmoil and dysfunction in which figures such as Defense Secretary James Mattis and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly call Trump an idiot. Woodward recounts incidents of Trump administration officials countermanding orders from the president, a situation Woodward characterizes as an “administrative coup d’état.” This was followed by the New York Times’ publication of an op-ed piece by an anonymous “senior official” in the Trump administration describing the activities of an internal “resistance” to Trump within the White House. The piece cited discussions among Trump aides about seeking his removal on the grounds of mental incompetence, as stipulated in the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution. It made clear that the “resistance,” promoted by the Timesand the Democrats, supports Trump’s tax cuts for the rich, removal of corporate regulations and increase in military spending. It attacks Trump for his “softness” toward Russia and North Korea and his overall impulsiveness, unpredictability and recklessness. Obama’s speech was along similar lines. He presented an absurdly potted history of American progress on the basis of the “free market,” with, he acknowledged, some imperfections—such as the wars in Vietnam and Iraq (which killed millions of people). His administration was supposedly part of this march of progress. He cited as evidence of his own progressive record the extra-judicial murder of Osama bin-Laden and his engineering of the “recovery” from the 2008 financial crisis. He reiterated his theme of 2016 that “things were great” in America by the time he left office. “And by the time I left office, household income was near its all-time high, and the uninsured rate hit an all-time low, poverty rates were falling. I mention this just so when you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let’s just remember when this recovery started.” Obama made no attempt explain why, despite his tireless efforts on behalf of ordinary Americans, the Democratic Party lost control of both houses of Congress during his administration and disgust with the Democratic Party was so intense that the billionaire conman and semi-fascist Trump was able to pose as a friend of working people and win the 2016 election. The reality, of course, is that Obama presided over the funneling of trillions of dollars to Wall Street to rescue the financial oligarchy, carrying out the greatest redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top in history. This was paid for by wage cuts and the destruction of decent-paying jobs, replaced by poverty-wage, part-time and temporary employment, the gutting of health benefits for millions of workers under “Obamacare,” pension cuts, the closure of thousands of public schools and layoff of tens of thousands of teachers, and a general lowering of the living standards of the working class. Trump’s attacks on democratic rights were prepared by Obama’s brutal policy of deportations, his continuation of indefinite detention and the Guantanamo torture camp, his support for mass domestic spying and his program of drone assassinations, including of US citizens. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were continued and new wars were launched in Libya and Syria. According to Obama, however, Trump was a radical departure from this wave of “progress,” a “symptom” of the “politics of fear and resentment.” It was the “powerful and privileged” pushing back. Obama criticized Trump for “cutting taxes on the wealthy, unwinding regulations and shrinking the safety net,” focusing however on the swelling of the deficit. He did not try to reconcile this account with his own reaction to the 2016 elections, which he called an “intramural scrimmage” between two sides of the “same team.” Obama saved his most biting criticism for Trump’s supposed softness toward Russia, appealing in the process to the tradition of cold war anti-communism. “They’re undermining our alliances,” he declared, “cozying up to Russia. What happened to the Republican Party? Its central organizing principle in foreign policy was the fight against communism, and now they’re cozying up to the former head of the KBG.” Alluding to the concocted narrative of “Russian meddling” in US elections, Obama denounced Trump and congressional Republicans for “actively blocking legislation that would defend our elections from Russian attack.” The central focus of Obama’s speech was an appeal to disaffected Republicans and conservatives to vote for the Democratic Party in the fall. He went out of his way to denounce Trump for attacking the Justice Department, which is spearheading the witch hunt against immigrants, and the FBI. He declared: “But I am here to tell you that even if you don’t agree with me or Democrats on policy, even if you believe in more libertarian economic theories, even if you are an evangelical and our position of certain social issues is a bridge too far, even if you think my assessment of immigration is mistaken and the Democrats aren’t serious enough about immigration enforcement, I’m here to tell you that you should still be concerned with our current course and should still want to see a restoration of honesty and decency and lawfulness in our government. It should not be Democratic or Republican.” In making this right-wing appeal, Obama took a swipe at the Sanders wing of the Democratic Party. “I’ll be honest,” he said, “sometimes I get into arguments with progressive friends about what the current political moment requires. There are well-meaning folks passionate about social justice who think things have gotten so bad, the lines have been so starkly drawn, that we have to fight fire with fire… I don’t agree with that.” These events have underscored two basic facts: there is absolutely nothing progressive or democratic in either of the warring camps, and the methods being employed by Trump’s ruling class opponents, spearheaded by the Democratic Party, are themselves deeply undemocratic. They are the methods of a palace coup. In so far as the resolution of the political crisis gripping the US capitalist class is left in the hands of the warring factions within the ruling elite and its state apparatus, the outcome will be a further turn to the right, intensified attacks on democratic rights—the Democrats are already spearheading the drive for internet censorship—more brutal austerity and an escalation of war internationally. There is another opposition to Trump that is entirely separate from and opposed to that of the Democrats and their military-intelligence and Wall Street allies. That is the growing opposition of the working class, expressed in the ongoing wave of teachers’ strikes, mass opposition among UPS workers to the union’s sellout contract, and mounting anger among Amazon and other low-paid, super-exploited workers. This is, moreover, part of a resurgence of class struggle internationally. This opposition must be mobilized independently of both big business parties and on the basis of a revolutionary socialist program. WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 8 12:34:22 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 12:34:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Obama's speech at the U of I Message-ID: * Print * Leaflet * Feedback * Share » Obama speech escalates factional warfare against Trump By Barry Grey 8 September 2018 In a speech Friday at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, former President Barack Obama publicly joined the escalating offensive against President Trump being mounted by sections of the ruling class and the state. The speech, directed at channeling both popular and ruling class opposition to the Trump administration behind the Democrats in the fall midterm elections, marked Obama’s first direct attack on his successor. Obama’s speech came as the culmination of a series of extraordinary events over the past two weeks that have brought the acute political crisis in the US to a new and explosive level of intensity. First came the week-long spectacle of bipartisan hypocrisy and political reaction occasioned by the death of Republican Senator John McCain, one of the most ferocious war-mongers in the US political establishment. Democrats sought to outdo the Republicans in eulogizing McCain as an “American hero” and model statesman. Within two days of McCain’s burial, the media was ablaze with revelations from the forthcoming book on the Trump White House by Washington Posteditor Bob Woodward. Woodward, citing anonymous interviews with high-ranking Trump officials, paints a picture of turmoil and dysfunction in which figures such as Defense Secretary James Mattis and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly call Trump an idiot. Woodward recounts incidents of Trump administration officials countermanding orders from the president, a situation Woodward characterizes as an “administrative coup d’état.” This was followed by the New York Times’ publication of an op-ed piece by an anonymous “senior official” in the Trump administration describing the activities of an internal “resistance” to Trump within the White House. The piece cited discussions among Trump aides about seeking his removal on the grounds of mental incompetence, as stipulated in the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution. It made clear that the “resistance,” promoted by the Timesand the Democrats, supports Trump’s tax cuts for the rich, removal of corporate regulations and increase in military spending. It attacks Trump for his “softness” toward Russia and North Korea and his overall impulsiveness, unpredictability and recklessness. Obama’s speech was along similar lines. He presented an absurdly potted history of American progress on the basis of the “free market,” with, he acknowledged, some imperfections—such as the wars in Vietnam and Iraq (which killed millions of people). His administration was supposedly part of this march of progress. He cited as evidence of his own progressive record the extra-judicial murder of Osama bin-Laden and his engineering of the “recovery” from the 2008 financial crisis. He reiterated his theme of 2016 that “things were great” in America by the time he left office. “And by the time I left office, household income was near its all-time high, and the uninsured rate hit an all-time low, poverty rates were falling. I mention this just so when you hear how great the economy is doing right now, let’s just remember when this recovery started.” Obama made no attempt explain why, despite his tireless efforts on behalf of ordinary Americans, the Democratic Party lost control of both houses of Congress during his administration and disgust with the Democratic Party was so intense that the billionaire conman and semi-fascist Trump was able to pose as a friend of working people and win the 2016 election. The reality, of course, is that Obama presided over the funneling of trillions of dollars to Wall Street to rescue the financial oligarchy, carrying out the greatest redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top in history. This was paid for by wage cuts and the destruction of decent-paying jobs, replaced by poverty-wage, part-time and temporary employment, the gutting of health benefits for millions of workers under “Obamacare,” pension cuts, the closure of thousands of public schools and layoff of tens of thousands of teachers, and a general lowering of the living standards of the working class. Trump’s attacks on democratic rights were prepared by Obama’s brutal policy of deportations, his continuation of indefinite detention and the Guantanamo torture camp, his support for mass domestic spying and his program of drone assassinations, including of US citizens. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were continued and new wars were launched in Libya and Syria. According to Obama, however, Trump was a radical departure from this wave of “progress,” a “symptom” of the “politics of fear and resentment.” It was the “powerful and privileged” pushing back. Obama criticized Trump for “cutting taxes on the wealthy, unwinding regulations and shrinking the safety net,” focusing however on the swelling of the deficit. He did not try to reconcile this account with his own reaction to the 2016 elections, which he called an “intramural scrimmage” between two sides of the “same team.” Obama saved his most biting criticism for Trump’s supposed softness toward Russia, appealing in the process to the tradition of cold war anti-communism. “They’re undermining our alliances,” he declared, “cozying up to Russia. What happened to the Republican Party? Its central organizing principle in foreign policy was the fight against communism, and now they’re cozying up to the former head of the KBG.” Alluding to the concocted narrative of “Russian meddling” in US elections, Obama denounced Trump and congressional Republicans for “actively blocking legislation that would defend our elections from Russian attack.” The central focus of Obama’s speech was an appeal to disaffected Republicans and conservatives to vote for the Democratic Party in the fall. He went out of his way to denounce Trump for attacking the Justice Department, which is spearheading the witch hunt against immigrants, and the FBI. He declared: “But I am here to tell you that even if you don’t agree with me or Democrats on policy, even if you believe in more libertarian economic theories, even if you are an evangelical and our position of certain social issues is a bridge too far, even if you think my assessment of immigration is mistaken and the Democrats aren’t serious enough about immigration enforcement, I’m here to tell you that you should still be concerned with our current course and should still want to see a restoration of honesty and decency and lawfulness in our government. It should not be Democratic or Republican.” In making this right-wing appeal, Obama took a swipe at the Sanders wing of the Democratic Party. “I’ll be honest,” he said, “sometimes I get into arguments with progressive friends about what the current political moment requires. There are well-meaning folks passionate about social justice who think things have gotten so bad, the lines have been so starkly drawn, that we have to fight fire with fire… I don’t agree with that.” These events have underscored two basic facts: there is absolutely nothing progressive or democratic in either of the warring camps, and the methods being employed by Trump’s ruling class opponents, spearheaded by the Democratic Party, are themselves deeply undemocratic. They are the methods of a palace coup. In so far as the resolution of the political crisis gripping the US capitalist class is left in the hands of the warring factions within the ruling elite and its state apparatus, the outcome will be a further turn to the right, intensified attacks on democratic rights—the Democrats are already spearheading the drive for internet censorship—more brutal austerity and an escalation of war internationally. There is another opposition to Trump that is entirely separate from and opposed to that of the Democrats and their military-intelligence and Wall Street allies. That is the growing opposition of the working class, expressed in the ongoing wave of teachers’ strikes, mass opposition among UPS workers to the union’s sellout contract, and mounting anger among Amazon and other low-paid, super-exploited workers. This is, moreover, part of a resurgence of class struggle internationally. This opposition must be mobilized independently of both big business parties and on the basis of a revolutionary socialist program. WSWS.ORG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Those demands will determine the future of our movement - and our world - for years to come. Rally and March @Scott Park, 11am-1pm. Organizations and leaders are welcome to attend to share information. Check back in for more information as plans develop! Take the pledge to Rise on September 8th: www.peoplesclimate.org/ Parking is available off of Stoughten St. Organizing groups include those below and Sierra Club Prairie Group - Illinois Chapter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Those demands will determine the future of our movement - and our world - for years to come. Rally and March @Scott Park, 11am-1pm. Organizations and leaders are welcome to attend to share information. Check back in for more information as plans develop! Take the pledge to Rise on September 8th: www.peoplesclimate.org/ Parking is available off of Stoughten St. Organizing groups include those below and Sierra Club Prairie Group - Illinois Chapter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moboct1 at aim.com Sun Sep 9 21:40:35 2018 From: moboct1 at aim.com (Mildred O'brien) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:40:35 -0400 Subject: [Peace] Letter to the U of I Administration from the UMMA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <165c0477f41-1ebd-d6d9@webjas-vaa152.srv.aolmail.net> Well stated to our Nobel 'Peace" Prize former president! Midge O'Brien -----Original Message----- From: Karen Aram via Peace To: peace Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2018 1:58 pm Subject: [Peace] Letter to the U of I Administration from the UMMA https://www.facebook.com/ummauiuc/posts/2100013780053224?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARC130kRgxCguGq0-rq1ZUQZ3HU4lyCd7OHCEcLDGIhFa1YQO4Tuir6vgl2Z4cH_-HIj6X_1B5NPxZtPAb4FVduvoqDkGWWvr-2PinW1LdjP6RTOcRZHOCzaYGzywc0evYMwTtt8lUPtqo8NpwdMp753GKeA1KbTbnpiIBudR-4U1-mzoDA2QQ&__tn__=K-R _______________________________________________Peace mailing listPeace at lists.chambana.nethttps://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 10 14:21:22 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 14:21:22 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: [Rise for Climate, Jobs, and Justice Action ~ Champaign-Urbana] https://www.ecowatch.com/rise-for-cl... 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URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 11 13:32:21 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 13:32:21 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Kali Akuno from Jackson, Miss. reflecting on elections 12/18 Message-ID: https://blackagendareport.com/cooperation-jacksons-kali-akuno-elections-dont-necessarily-change-damn-thing From deb.pdamerica at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 10:05:48 2018 From: deb.pdamerica at gmail.com (Debra Schrishuhn) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 05:05:48 -0500 Subject: [Peace] we have another week on Kavanaugh--apologies for length Message-ID: Folks, We must stop Kavanaugh's appointment to Supreme Court. Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the US Supreme Court must be defeated. He will tilt the court rightward for decades, erasing reproductive rights, net neutrality, environmental protections, election integrity, and promoting a nearly unlimited view of presidential power. He was almost certainly involved in the Bush administration's war-mongering and torture justifications. KEEP CALLING DAILY! Sen Tammy Duckworth is all in, publicly declaring her NO vote. Sen Durbin sits on the Judiciary Committee and will not say he is a NO vote, but has made public statements of support for Sen. Booker's brush with Senate rules, has sent out numerous anti-Kavanaugh petitions, and just released a batch of "committee/confidential" documents. He needs calls and emails into his office saying you oppose Kavanaugh, thanking him for what he has done, and urging him to vote NO and be public about it. Call his Springfield office to leave a voice mail and give your ZIP code so they know you are a constituent. 492-4378 Now here are the DC numbers of the whole Judiciary Committee-keep calling their offices daily to ask for a delay until Kavanaugh can be thoroughly vetted, since only 10% of his papers have been released, he has serious ethical issues, and allegations of sexual misconduct and excessive gambling need to be investigated: Republicans on Judiciary • Chuck Grassley, IA, Chairman (202) 224-3744--lean YES • Orrin Hatch, UT (202) 224-5251-YES • Lindsey Graham, SC (202) 224-5972--YES • John Cornyn, TX (202) 224-2934-YES • Mike Lee, UT (202) 224-5444--lean YES, but willing to work to get more docs released • Ted Cruz, TX (202) 224-5922--YES • Ben Sasse, NE (202) 224-4224-lean YES • Jeff Flake, AZ (202 224-4521--lean YES • Mike Crapo, ID (202) 224-6142--YES • Thom Tillis, NC (202) 224-6342--YES • John Kennedy, LA (202) 224-4623--YES Dems on Judiciary • Dianne Feinstein, CA, Ranking Member (202 224-6551--lean NO • Patrick Leahy, VT (202) 224-4242-lean NO • Dick Durbin, IL (202) 224-2152--lean NO • Sheldon Whitehouse, RI (202 224-2921--NO • Amy Klobuchar, MN (202) 224-3244--NO • Chris Coons, DE (202) 224-5042--lean NO • Richard Blumenthal, CT (202) 224-2823--NO • Mazie Hirono, HI (202) 224-6361--NO • Cory Booker, NJ (202) 224-3224--NO • Kamala Harris, CA (202) 224-3553 --NO IN ADDITION, keep pressure on these waffling Senators: Donnelly-D-IN--202-224-4814 Heitkamp-D-ND--202-224-5521 Jones-D-AL--202-224-4124 McCaskill-D-MO--202-224-6154 Manchin-D-WV--202-2243954 --talked to staffer at a district office who was enthusiastic about passing along"vote NO" message Collins-R-ME--202-224-2523 --getting huge amount of pressure to vote NO and $1 million pledged for opponent if she votes YES Murkowski-R-AK--202-224-6665 Secondary (lean YES): Enzi-R-WY--202-224-3424 Ernst -R-IA--202-224-3254 Fischer-R-NE--202-2246551 GardnerR-CO--202-224-5941 LankfordR-OK--202-224-5754 We have an extra week--let's not waste it! Thanks, Deb From bjornsona at ameritech.net Fri Sep 14 23:16:41 2018 From: bjornsona at ameritech.net (Anne Parkinson) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 23:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Peace & Life: Gosnell Movie/Unwelcome/Elections In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1093361424.5679917.1536967001552@mail.yahoo.com> carl: your basic point that the peace movement needs all the people it can get is true. However, the world is not black & white, there are so many other colors. It is possible for all people to be involved in the peace movement while keeping their mouths shut about their other opinions. I find myself sounding like everyone who has ever held back on something and said "wait for." Perhaps peace is the thing we have been waiting for too long while we try to fix everything else. Your movie producers have little credibility. Take a quick look at their past productions: "FrackNation,"(described as the Michael Moore movie for the "other side" on Wikipedia), "Mine your own Business," (miners want their jobs of course, while the movie was paid for by the mining company) and "Evil, Not Wrong," (climate-change science might be correct, however it is evil to put limits on environmental destruction when it harms job retention and creation.) The actor playing the title character was the main character in 6 seasons of FX's Justified. I saw the first season of Justified - what I could stand to watch of it. Justified rates up there with many of the most violent, nasty shows out there today. Ironic that actors and producers involved in a movie many people might say would support a "seamless garment of life" have spent their last ten years promoting destroying the environment and creating a television show the old Catholic ratings would put at the worst of their list. I feel like taking a shower every time I hear the word "Justified", that's how evil that television show is. Note of course that this movie has two women producers supplying cash, and one of the producers also had input into the screenplay. There is one woman listed on the movie print ad. Everything else seems to be men: actors, story by, etc. Also interesting that you found a group called "Rehumanize" led by someone named "Herb". Great group name. Why not led by a "Jennie?" Why not "Feminists for Life?" This all smacks of unconscious patriarchy and ownership. A movie that  over-dramatizes how pre-born, pre-made, pre-washed, pre-diapered, pre-fathered, pre-assembled babies are aborted after 16-20 weeks here sometimes is not going to show  babies being killed by the millions in the Middle East and South Asia. That movie is not going to connect at all about how  20 different countries and/or ethnicities - i guess it is more by now- are involved in our oil corporation conflict and how the death numbers are vastly understated. Meanwhile we can use get plastic cups made from oil at the movie theatre for our Cokes. Or are the cups recycled plastic now? Anne.P.S. I may continue to use "carl" instead of "Carl" . It feels so much better thinking of men in the lower case - rather like a Second Sex.  I don't know why.  Perhaps I am simply tired of the same old *&^ On Friday, August 31, 2018 3:08 PM, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss wrote: |   | | | Gosnell Movie           The trailer is now out for Gosnell: The Trial of America’s Biggest Serial Killer.  The movie is based on the true story of an abortionist convicted of murdering newborn babies, and manslaughter of a woman. The movie is due out on October 12.         It’s uncommon for Hollywood to take a story like this seriously, and it’s likely to have trouble getting into some theaters – as it is, it’s an independent production funded through a Go Fund Me campaign. Any help on getting it to theaters, and getting theater goers to the movie, will be a tremendous boost to public education on the issue.          ^^^^^^^   Pro-Lifers for Peace Not Welcome?           Activists from member group Rehumanize International participated last weekend in the Pittsburgh March for Peace. While the activists were speaking to reporters covering the March, other attendees, who objected to Rehumanize’s pro-life stance on abortion, attempted to disrupt the interview. Rehumanize member Herb Geraghty, who was present at the confrontation, recounts it on Twitter.         That peace activists would not accept pro-lifers as allies is tragic—and counterproductive. As Herb puts it: “To say that you can’t be both anti-abortion and be involved in anti-war activism is absurd. People are being slaughtered in our name and our planet is literally dying all for the profits of the few. This is an emergency. We need everyone.”    Herb Geraghty, at Pittsburgh March for Peace   ^^^^^^^ Election Season           In the U.S., Labor Day (this year on September 3) is traditionally the start of campaign season for the November elections, after most of the primaries to select candidates have been held. So this is a good time to remind you that we have a page of suggestions for Actions at Election Time. You might also find valuable a resource from Friends Committee on National Legislation (FCNL; “Friends” being Quakers) on specific questions to ask about current peace and justice issues. FCNL has no position on abortion, but our creative minds can easily see the connections, and help others to understand them as well. In public forums, after all, it’s not just the candidates, but the audience being educated.         We also have bumper stickers and yard signs available.     ^^^^^^^   Quotation of the Week Battle Scars: Military Veterans and the Death Penalty A Report by the Death Penalty Information Center           When many of these veterans faced death penalty trials, their service and related illnesses were barely touched on as their lives were being weighed by judges and juries. Defense attorneys failed to investigate this critical area of mitigation; prosecutors dismissed, or even belittled, their claims of mental trauma from the war; judges discounted such evidence on appeal; and governors passed on their opportunity to bestow the country's mercy. In older cases, some of that dismissiveness might be attributed to ignorance about PTSD and related problems. 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Please help spread the word: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PDAmerica/posts/10156915149009236 Twitter: https://twitter.com/pdamerica/status/1041330258593624064 Google+: https://plus.google.com/b/104691289259473848877/+ProgressiveDemocratsofAmerica/posts/HPBjojYTrpm Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6447095486598955008 Tumblr: http://pdamerica.tumblr.com/post/178143827202/stop-pro-torture-kavanaugh-today Pinterest: https://pin.it/q3j3swlhb6vc2n Thanks, Deb From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 02:04:45 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 21:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] 'News from Neptune' for Friday 14 September 2018 In-Reply-To: References: <040B9EAE-0172-41AB-BAC1-1FAA2E0FD892@gmail.com> Message-ID: I would add this article, referred to on the program, although it's problematic especially regarding Harrington. https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/31/grappling-with-the-racism-of-the-dsas-founders/ On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:28 PM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > News from Neptune #394 - "Listing to port" edition > Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 > > Links to works referenced on the show: > > > Gary Olson's "Pope Francis and the Battle Over Cultural Terrain" > > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/pope-francis-and-the-battle-over-cultural-terrain/ > > > > > 2/3rds of Progressive Democrats are silent on foreign policy. Why? > > > https://www.blackagendareport.com/two-thirds-progressive-democratic-congressional-candidates-completely-silent-foreign-policy > > > > Matt Taibbi's "On the 10-year Anniversary of the Crash" > > > https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/financial-crisis-ten-year-anniversary-723798/ > > > > Margarethe von Trotta's film "Rosa Luxemburg" (1986) > > Movie with hardcoded subtitles (runs 1h58m): > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiR0MmxB2qU > > > > > Carl Boggs on "Obama’s Imperial Presidency" > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/obamas-imperial-presidency/ > > > > > Anthony DiMaggio on the real threat to the US being "fascism in the White > House" and threat #1: Donald Trump > > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/11/full-on-fascism-trump-makes-the-transition-in-his-war-on-the-press/ > > > > "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry > about answers." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" > > https://gravitys-rainbow.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/ -- "Gravity's Rainbow" wiki > > https://archive.org/details/WeisenburgerAGravitysRainbowCompanion -- > Weisenburger's "Gravity's Rainbow" companion in multiple formats. > > > > John Steppling on Obama > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/12/unravelling/ > > > > "Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did > make me sad; they always made me glad." -- Malcolm X on Pres. Kennedy's > assassination > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6aX3dHR2k -- Malcolm X talking about > his famous statement. > > > > > Edward Michael "Mike" Harrington Jr.'s book "The Other America: Poverty in > the United States" > ISBN: 0-684-82678-X > > Harrington's book "Socialism" > ISBN: 9780841501416 > > Harrington coined the term "neoconservatism". > > "Today's Other America: Corporate Power and Inequality" documentary based > on "The Other America" book. > > Maurice Isserman "The Other American: The Life of Michael Harrington" > ISBN: 1-58648-036-7 > > On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, C G Estabrook wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 > > {INTRO} Good evening, & welcome to News from Neptune for the 37th week of > 2018. I’m Carl Estabrook. > > Historians consider a generation to be about 25 years - roughly the time > it takes for you to get to the age your parents are now. > > For more than a generation, this program has been a weekly hour of > spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its > coverage by the media - first, on a so-called community radio station - and > now via Urbana Public TV and YouTube. (Earlier editions of this program are > available at . ) > > I’m now the age my parents would have been when we started the program. > It’s not been an encouraging trip. > > Our program’s name, News from Neptune, comes from Noam Chomsky, who’s been > writing sensible things about U.S. politics for more than twice as long as > we’ve ben on the air. Chomsky says that in the U.S. media, “Either you > repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say > something true, and it will sound like it’s from Neptune.” > > Tonight David Green & I - will try to say some true things with thanks to > Dr Know, J. B. Nicholson, for research. Know’s Notes are posted on the NEWS > FROM NEPTUNE fb page > > We try to bear in mind the murdered Rosa Luxemburg’s remark, from a > century ago > “The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what > is happening.” > > This is a “listing to port” edition (for a hurricane weekend). We’ll > present lists of news stories that are generally ignored. Listing also > means leaning - as port means ‘left.’ As antiquated as the left/right > distinction may be in politics, we may say that this program leans to the > left - i.e., lists to port. > > {OUTRO} You've been watching News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. > News From Neptune is presented by Carl Estabrook & David Green. It is > produced & directed by Jason Liggett & Ethan Young, with Andrew Scolari). > This has been a “Listing to Port” edition. > > Our thanks to Research Director Dr. Know, J. B. Nicholson, the Third Man > on News From Neptune - “Know’s Notes” are posted on the fb page for NFN > > Inshallah, we’ll be back next week with a new edition of News From Neptune > - to remind you, in the words of Edward de Vere (in The Tempest), > > “...what’s past is prologue, what to come > In yours and my discharge.” > > In the meantime, confusion to our enemies, and a good night to you. > > ### > > > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 18:55:17 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Peace] 'News from Neptune' for Friday 14 September 2018 Message-ID: <040B9EAE-0172-41AB-BAC1-1FAA2E0FD892@gmail.com> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 {INTRO} Good evening, & welcome to News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. I’m Carl Estabrook. Historians consider a generation to be about 25 years - roughly the time it takes for you to get to the age your parents are now. For more than a generation, this program has been a weekly hour of spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its coverage by the media - first, on a so-called community radio station - and now via Urbana Public TV and YouTube. (Earlier editions of this program are available at . ) I’m now the age my parents would have been when we started the program. It’s not been an encouraging trip. Our program’s name, News from Neptune, comes from Noam Chomsky, who’s been writing sensible things about U.S. politics for more than twice as long as we’ve ben on the air. Chomsky says that in the U.S. media, “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it’s from Neptune.” Tonight David Green & I - will try to say some true things with thanks to Dr Know, J. B. Nicholson, for research. Know’s Notes are posted on the NEWS FROM NEPTUNE fb page We try to bear in mind the murdered Rosa Luxemburg’s remark, from a century ago “The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening.” This is a “listing to port” edition (for a hurricane weekend). We’ll present lists of news stories that are generally ignored. Listing also means leaning - as port means ‘left.’ As antiquated as the left/right distinction may be in politics, we may say that this program leans to the left - i.e., lists to port. {OUTRO} You've been watching News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. News From Neptune is presented by Carl Estabrook & David Green. It is produced & directed by Jason Liggett & Ethan Young, with Andrew Scolari). This has been a “Listing to Port” edition. Our thanks to Research Director Dr. Know, J. B. Nicholson, the Third Man on News From Neptune - “Know’s Notes” are posted on the fb page for NFN Inshallah, we’ll be back next week with a new edition of News From Neptune - to remind you, in the words of Edward de Vere (in The Tempest), “...what’s past is prologue, what to come In yours and my discharge.” In the meantime, confusion to our enemies, and a good night to you. ### From cgestabrook at gmail.com Mon Sep 17 00:27:41 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 19:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace] 'News from Neptune' for Friday 14 September 2018 In-Reply-To: <040B9EAE-0172-41AB-BAC1-1FAA2E0FD892@gmail.com> References: <040B9EAE-0172-41AB-BAC1-1FAA2E0FD892@gmail.com> Message-ID: News from Neptune #394 - "Listing to port" edition Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 Links to works referenced on the show: Gary Olson's "Pope Francis and the Battle Over Cultural Terrain" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/pope-francis-and-the-battle-over-cultural-terrain/ 2/3rds of Progressive Democrats are silent on foreign policy. Why? https://www.blackagendareport.com/two-thirds-progressive-democratic-congressional-candidates-completely-silent-foreign-policy Matt Taibbi's "On the 10-year Anniversary of the Crash" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/financial-crisis-ten-year-anniversary-723798/ Margarethe von Trotta's film "Rosa Luxemburg" (1986) Movie with hardcoded subtitles (runs 1h58m): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiR0MmxB2qU Carl Boggs on "Obama’s Imperial Presidency" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/obamas-imperial-presidency/ Anthony DiMaggio on the real threat to the US being "fascism in the White House" and threat #1: Donald Trump https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/11/full-on-fascism-trump-makes-the-transition-in-his-war-on-the-press/ "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" https://gravitys-rainbow.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/ -- "Gravity's Rainbow" wiki https://archive.org/details/WeisenburgerAGravitysRainbowCompanion -- Weisenburger's "Gravity's Rainbow" companion in multiple formats. John Steppling on Obama https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/12/unravelling/ "Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they always made me glad." -- Malcolm X on Pres. Kennedy's assassination https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6aX3dHR2k -- Malcolm X talking about his famous statement. Edward Michael "Mike" Harrington Jr.'s book "The Other America: Poverty in the United States" ISBN: 0-684-82678-X Harrington's book "Socialism" ISBN: 9780841501416 Harrington coined the term "neoconservatism". "Today's Other America: Corporate Power and Inequality" documentary based on "The Other America" book. Maurice Isserman "The Other American: The Life of Michael Harrington" ISBN: 1-58648-036-7 > On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, C G Estabrook wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 > > {INTRO} Good evening, & welcome to News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. I’m Carl Estabrook. > > Historians consider a generation to be about 25 years - roughly the time it takes for you to get to the age your parents are now. > > For more than a generation, this program has been a weekly hour of spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its coverage by the media - first, on a so-called community radio station - and now via Urbana Public TV and YouTube. (Earlier editions of this program are available at . ) > > I’m now the age my parents would have been when we started the program. It’s not been an encouraging trip. > > Our program’s name, News from Neptune, comes from Noam Chomsky, who’s been writing sensible things about U.S. politics for more than twice as long as we’ve ben on the air. Chomsky says that in the U.S. media, “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it’s from Neptune.” > > Tonight David Green & I - will try to say some true things with thanks to Dr Know, J. B. Nicholson, for research. Know’s Notes are posted on the NEWS FROM NEPTUNE fb page > > We try to bear in mind the murdered Rosa Luxemburg’s remark, from a century ago > “The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening.” > > This is a “listing to port” edition (for a hurricane weekend). We’ll present lists of news stories that are generally ignored. Listing also means leaning - as port means ‘left.’ As antiquated as the left/right distinction may be in politics, we may say that this program leans to the left - i.e., lists to port. > > {OUTRO} You've been watching News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. News From Neptune is presented by Carl Estabrook & David Green. It is produced & directed by Jason Liggett & Ethan Young, with Andrew Scolari). This has been a “Listing to Port” edition. > > Our thanks to Research Director Dr. Know, J. B. Nicholson, the Third Man on News From Neptune - “Know’s Notes” are posted on the fb page for NFN > > Inshallah, we’ll be back next week with a new edition of News From Neptune - to remind you, in the words of Edward de Vere (in The Tempest), > > “...what’s past is prologue, what to come > In yours and my discharge.” > > In the meantime, confusion to our enemies, and a good night to you. > > ### > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Mon Sep 17 13:28:55 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:28:55 +0000 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] 'News from Neptune' for Friday 14 September 2018 In-Reply-To: References: <040B9EAE-0172-41AB-BAC1-1FAA2E0FD892@gmail.com> Message-ID: This article on Counterpunch by Andrew Stewart, is problematic, but it makes a good point. We shouldn’t rely only upon Wikipedia for information related to those leaders or vanguard members of organizations that have so much influence on so many today. I would like to know more about Max Schatzman, credited with being the founder of the current ISO. His anti-communist, anti-Stalin opinions provided by the Counterpunch article, is important as it may explain why the ISO today is negative towards groups like the PSL and “anti-war activists” referring to them as Assadists in relation to Syria. They focus very little on foreign policy, is this the legacy of Schatzman? On Sep 16, 2018, at 19:04, David Green via Peace > wrote: I would add this article, referred to on the program, although it's problematic especially regarding Harrington. https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/08/31/grappling-with-the-racism-of-the-dsas-founders/ On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 7:28 PM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss > wrote: News from Neptune #394 - "Listing to port" edition Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 Links to works referenced on the show: Gary Olson's "Pope Francis and the Battle Over Cultural Terrain" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/pope-francis-and-the-battle-over-cultural-terrain/ 2/3rds of Progressive Democrats are silent on foreign policy. Why? https://www.blackagendareport.com/two-thirds-progressive-democratic-congressional-candidates-completely-silent-foreign-policy Matt Taibbi's "On the 10-year Anniversary of the Crash" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/financial-crisis-ten-year-anniversary-723798/ Margarethe von Trotta's film "Rosa Luxemburg" (1986) Movie with hardcoded subtitles (runs 1h58m): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiR0MmxB2qU Carl Boggs on "Obama’s Imperial Presidency" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/14/obamas-imperial-presidency/ Anthony DiMaggio on the real threat to the US being "fascism in the White House" and threat #1: Donald Trump https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/11/full-on-fascism-trump-makes-the-transition-in-his-war-on-the-press/ "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers." -- Thomas Pynchon, "Gravity's Rainbow" https://gravitys-rainbow.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/ -- "Gravity's Rainbow" wiki https://archive.org/details/WeisenburgerAGravitysRainbowCompanion -- Weisenburger's "Gravity's Rainbow" companion in multiple formats. John Steppling on Obama https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/12/unravelling/ "Being an old farm boy myself, chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they always made me glad." -- Malcolm X on Pres. Kennedy's assassination https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD6aX3dHR2k -- Malcolm X talking about his famous statement. Edward Michael "Mike" Harrington Jr.'s book "The Other America: Poverty in the United States" ISBN: 0-684-82678-X Harrington's book "Socialism" ISBN: 9780841501416 Harrington coined the term "neoconservatism". "Today's Other America: Corporate Power and Inequality" documentary based on "The Other America" book. Maurice Isserman "The Other American: The Life of Michael Harrington" ISBN: 1-58648-036-7 On Sep 16, 2018, at 1:55 PM, C G Estabrook > wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4b5ZYpfLf8 {INTRO} Good evening, & welcome to News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. I’m Carl Estabrook. Historians consider a generation to be about 25 years - roughly the time it takes for you to get to the age your parents are now. For more than a generation, this program has been a weekly hour of spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its coverage by the media - first, on a so-called community radio station - and now via Urbana Public TV and YouTube. (Earlier editions of this program are available at >. ) I’m now the age my parents would have been when we started the program. It’s not been an encouraging trip. Our program’s name, News from Neptune, comes from Noam Chomsky, who’s been writing sensible things about U.S. politics for more than twice as long as we’ve ben on the air. Chomsky says that in the U.S. media, “Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like it’s from Neptune.” Tonight David Green & I - will try to say some true things with thanks to Dr Know, J. B. Nicholson, for research. Know’s Notes are posted on the NEWS FROM NEPTUNE fb page We try to bear in mind the murdered Rosa Luxemburg’s remark, from a century ago “The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening.” This is a “listing to port” edition (for a hurricane weekend). We’ll present lists of news stories that are generally ignored. Listing also means leaning - as port means ‘left.’ As antiquated as the left/right distinction may be in politics, we may say that this program leans to the left - i.e., lists to port. {OUTRO} You've been watching News from Neptune for the 37th week of 2018. News From Neptune is presented by Carl Estabrook & David Green. It is produced & directed by Jason Liggett & Ethan Young, with Andrew Scolari). This has been a “Listing to Port” edition. Our thanks to Research Director Dr. Know, J. B. Nicholson, the Third Man on News From Neptune - “Know’s Notes” are posted on the fb page for NFN Inshallah, we’ll be back next week with a new edition of News From Neptune - to remind you, in the words of Edward de Vere (in The Tempest), “...what’s past is prologue, what to come In yours and my discharge.” In the meantime, confusion to our enemies, and a good night to you. ### _______________________________________________ Peace-discuss mailing list Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss _______________________________________________ Peace mailing list Peace at lists.chambana.net https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 17:44:59 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:44:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace] The Syria deception Message-ID: https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/09/15/presenting-the-syria-deception-al-qaeda-goes-to-hollywood-video/ From karenaram at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 17:44:59 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 17:44:59 +0000 Subject: [Peace] The Syria deception Message-ID: https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/09/15/presenting-the-syria-deception-al-qaeda-goes-to-hollywood-video/ From deb.pdamerica at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 11:16:45 2018 From: deb.pdamerica at gmail.com (Debra Schrishuhn) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 06:16:45 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Move To Amend event Sept 24 Message-ID: Democratic Revolution vs. Corporate Rule: It’s Up to Us! Monday, September 24th @ 7-9PM Unitarian Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign 309 W Green St, Urbana, IL 61801 Free & open to the public. Free childcare is available, please email us the ages of the children. Join Move to Amend’s National Outreach Director Greg Coleridge for an inspiring call-to-action and discussion on the nationwide movement to pass a 28th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to end corporate personhood. ➔ Local Leaders will join Greg and relate Local Issues to this Movement! ➔ Find out about specific actions we can take in Illinois! ➔ Learn the history of how the Supreme Court got us here and what it will take to abolish corporate personhood and get big money out of politics! ➔ Join us to learn how to work with those we elect in November to grow a democratic revolution to prevent corporate rule! ➔ Get personally inspired and motivated to join the movement! Formed in September 2009, Move to Amend is a coalition of over 450,000 people and hundreds of organizations committed to social & economic justice, ending corporate rule, and building a vibrant democracy that is genuinely accountable to the people, not corporate interests. Move to Amend partially finances these tours through the generous donations of event attendees. Join us! Sponsored by The Social Action Committee of the Unitarian-Universalist Church of Urbana-Champaign, contacts: Doug Jones 217-377-6787 djones42 at gmail.com or Nancy Dietrich 217-337-0334 nancydietrich01 at gmail.com and Move to Amend For more information contact Milly Harmon at barnstorming at movetoamend.org 916-318-8040 MoveToAmend.org From karenaram at hotmail.com Sat Sep 22 15:55:01 2018 From: karenaram at hotmail.com (Karen Aram) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 15:55:01 +0000 Subject: [Peace] Fwd: [New post] Medea Benjamin Shows America What Real Resistance Looks Like References: <139971992.5284.0@wordpress.com> Message-ID: New post on Caitlin Johnstone [https://i1.wp.com/caitlinjohnstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/cropped-caitlinpic1.jpg?resize=32%2C32&ssl=1] [http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/12152988a68a6d4dae7506812444c18f?s=50&d=monsterid&r=G] Medea Benjamin Shows America What Real Resistance Looks Like by Caitlin Johnstone Almost immediately after hitting publish on my last article about how the so-called "Resistance" to the Trump administration doesn't actually resist Trump's most pernicious agendas in any meaningful way, I saw an awesome video clip proving that there is at least one woman out there providing real opposition to Trump where it matters. A think tank is an organization wherein highly-paid academics pour their collective brainpower into coming up with convincing arguments that it would be good and smart to do something evil and stupid. At one such think tank, the Hudson Institute, former John Bolton advisor and current Mike Pompeo lackey Brian Hook had his neocon cuddle party interrupted by CodePink activist Medea Benjamin Wednesday morning. Benjamin excoriated the Director of Policy Planning for Pompeo's Iran Action Team, decrying the Trump administration's crippling sanctions following its withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal. [http://img.youtube.com/vi/uNe4G7ofCy4/0.jpg] “That is the most ridiculous thing I have seen," Benjamin exclaimed while security staff worked to muscle her off the stage. "The world community wants to keep the Iran nuclear deal. Our allies—the Germans, the French, the British—they want to keep in this deal. The world community wants to keep the deal. Let’s talk about normal countries. Let’s talk about Saudi Arabia. Is that who our allies are? They are the biggest threat to the world community. And let’s talk—you’re hurting me. You’re actually hurting me. I want to ask: Do you think these sanctions are hurting the regime, or are they hurting the Iranian people? They’re hurting the Iranian people. You are making a case for war with Iran. How did the war with Iraq turn out? You’re doing exactly the same thing we did in the case of Iraq. We don’t want another war in the Middle East. Let’s see, how did Iraq turn out? How did Libya turn out? We have the people of Syria suffering. And how dare you bring up the issue of Yemen? It’s the Saudi bombing that is killing most people in Yemen. So let’s get real. No more war! Peace with Iran!” The think tank ghouls chuckled and mocked her, but the damage was done and the video went viral. As a reminder, the Trump administration has not only leveled crippling sanctions upon Iran with the goal of fomenting civil unrest, but has also escalated CIA covert operationsled by Trump-appointed officials and cultivated an intimate relationship with the MEK terror cult, which is spearheading a social media propaganda campaign against the Iranian government directed at western audiences. The Trump administration's approach to Iran is in these ways mirroring the Obama administration's approach to Libya and Syria, and has been called a regime change policy in all but name due to the many unrealistic demands being made of the Iranian government in order to deescalate. These escalations could easily erupt into direct hot war in the future, especially with this administration being stuffed to the gills with virulent Iran hawks at the highest levels. Bush to Obama to Trump, @medeabenjamin interrupts business as usual to expose US sponsored terrorism. If only there were millions more doing the same https://t.co/BiOD8AimFH — Abby Martin (@AbbyMartin) September 21, 2018 The Medea Benjamin video is so tasty I've watched it several times. It feels like it's attuning my cells and reminding me what it takes to put up real time resistance in the stifling atmosphere of opposition by breaking through the somnolent hypnosis of tribal dynamics. This is what it takes. But this is all it takes. Interrupt our regularly scheduled programming with a burst of truth and humanity will inevitably rouse a few more from their hypnosis, and a few more awake is a few more towards tipping point. While Democrats are holding demonstrations in support of longstanding neocon agendas against Russia and leftists are gathering to punch racist nobodies in the face, this feisty little sheila threw her body into the bright lights of the brainwashing machine and jammed it right up until they had to physically remove her. Are we seeing the heart of the anti-war left kick back into life? I sure fucking hope so. Unlike the impotent busybox of Russiagate, this is the resistance to Trump that is real, and it will work. Attacking the Trump administration on their continuation of Bushbama's warmongering ecocidal, omnicidal policies and refusing to fall in line with longstanding neocon agendas runs interference on the very lifeblood of the parasitic elite that seek to suck the tax dollars of working Americans into murdering humans and fattening Raytheon profit margins. [http://img.youtube.com/vi/peJGmeg6ZE8/0.jpg] Destroying the war machine fixes everything from climate change to living standards, terrorism, famine, homelessness, mental health, slavery, plus all the horrors that war always necessarily births into the world such as rape, black markets, human trafficking, refugee crises and so on. Not to mention the butchery of humans for profit which is what war is. Putting up resistance by breaking the hypnotic effect of war propaganda works. No one actually wants war apart from a handful of powerful elites who fund these think tanks to weave lies and manipulate truth into stories that will manufacture consent for endless military bloodbaths. Simply using the truth to run interference on these lies and spin is enough. Medea Benjamin is my hero. People are going to tell me that you and your organization haven't been exactly 100 percent perfect on every single issue every single day, because this is the left and that's what the left does. But I don't care; anyone who's willing to throw a hammer in the gears of the machine to any extent is a hero to whatever extent that they did so. Enough of us doing what Medea Benjamin did would bring the entire machine crashing down. Medea Benjamin, thank you. I salute you. ___________________ Thanks for reading! 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URL: From cgestabrook at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 19:21:51 2018 From: cgestabrook at gmail.com (C G Estabrook) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 14:21:51 -0500 Subject: [Peace] News from Neptune, 21 September 2018 Message-ID: <23BA28B4-780F-4EB8-A9C2-F823F8C4FBD4@gmail.com> News from Neptune #395 - "Bridging the Gap: No Trump Bids" Episode video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLnDex72ASA [J. B. Nicholson] Notes about items from the show follow. Matt Taibbi interviews Noam Chomsky https://taibbi.substack.com/p/preface-an-interview-with-noam-chomsky-the-fairway New York Times Leonhardt: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is a myth https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/16/opinion/columnists/democrats-midterms-progressive-left-trump.html Jeffrey St. Clair's "Roaming Charges: the Chickenhawks Have Finally Come Back Home to Roost!" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/roaming-charges-4/ Daniel Bessner's articles Jacobin articles should be linked here: https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/daniel-bessner On Dead Pundits Society show: RSS of show: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:292981343/sounds.rss Episode 64: The Deep, Deep State with Daniel Bessner: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/498307023-deadpundits-ep-64-the-deep-deep-state-w-daniel-bessner.mp3 Episode 65: A Socialist Foreign Policy with Daniel Bessner (teaser): http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/499206882-deadpundits-ep-65-a-socialist-foreign-policy-w-daniel-bessner-teaser.mp3 Recent opinion column in New York Times: What Does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Think About the South China Sea?: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/opinion/democratic-party-cortez-foreign-policy.html "The Crisis of Democracy" book PDF with text (so you can copy/paste quotes easily and accurately): https://archive.org/download/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf "The CIA Democrats" pointers courtesy of Karen Aram > An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department are seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence personnel into the legislature has no precedent in US political history. Part 1 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html Part 2 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/08/dems-m08.html Part 3 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/09/dems-m09.html Related: The CIA Democrats vs. Julian Assange: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/23/pers-a23.html CIA Democrat complains of political spying by Republicans: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/09/07/span-s07.html George Kennan's Memo Memo PPS23: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memo_PPS23_by_George_Kennan Thomas More's "Utopia": Complete edition with notes in various formats: http://theopenutopia.org/full-text/introduction-open-utopia/ English translation: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2130 Audiobook: https://librivox.org/search?title=Utopia&author=More Michael Massing's "Fatal Discord: Erasmus, Luther, and the Fight for the Western Mind" ISBN-10: 0060517603 ISBN-13: 978-0060517601 Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9"-related interviews on DemocracyNow.org : https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_v_donald_trump_in https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_are_we_going_to https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_democrats_made_fatal_mistake https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/19/michael_moore_senate_must_take_dr Louis Proyect's review of "Fahrenheit 11/9" https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/moores-fahrenheit-11-9-entertaining-film-crappy-politics/ Regarding David's considering not voting and "Fahrenheit 11/9" reviews, consider Glenn Greenwald's latest for TheIntercept.com , a review of Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9": https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/michael-moores-fahrenheit-119-aims-not-at-trump-but-at-those-who-created-the-conditions-that-led-to-his-rise/ > Moore quickly escapes the dreary and misleading “Democrat v. GOP” > framework that dominates cable news by trumpeting “the largest political > party in America”: those who refuse to vote. He uses this powerful > graphic to tell that story: > [See picture of general election figures for Democratic, Republican, and > non-voters.] > It’s remarkable how little attention is paid to non-voters given that, > as Moore rightly notes, they form America’s largest political faction. > Part of why they’re ignored is moralism: those who don’t vote deserve no > attention as they have only themselves to blame. > But the much most consequential factor is the danger for both parties > from delving too deeply into this subject. After all, voter apathy > arises when people conclude that their votes don’t change their lives, > that election outcomes improve nothing, that the small amount of time > spent waiting in line at a voting booth isn’t worth the effort because > of how inconsequential it is. What greater indictment of the two > political parties can one imagine than that? > One of the most illuminating pieces of reporting about the 2016 election > is also, not coincidentally, one of the most ignored: interviews by the > New York Times with white and African-American working-class voters in > Milwaukee who refused to vote and – even knowing that Trump won > Wisconsin, and thus the presidency, largely because of their decision – > don’t regret it. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They > never do anything for us anyway,” the article quotes an African-American > barber, justifying his decision not to vote in 2016 after voting twice > for Obama. > Moore develops the same point, even more powerfully, about his home > state of Michigan, which – like Wisconsin – Trump also won after Obama > won it twice. In one of the most powerful and devastating passages from > the film – indeed, of any political documentary seen in quite some time > – “Fahrenheit 11/9″ takes us in real-time through the indescribably > shameful water crisis of Flint, the criminal cover-up of it by GOP > Governor Rick Snyder, and the physical and emotional suffering endured > by its poor, voiceless, and overwhelmingly black residents. > After many months of abuse, of being lied to, of being poisoned, Flint > residents, in May, 2016, finally had a cause for hope: President Obama > announced that he would visit Flint to address the water crisis. As Air > Force One majestically lands, Flint residents rejoice, believing that > genuine concern, political salvation, and drinkable water had finally > arrived. > Exactly the opposite happened. Obama delivered a speech in which he not > only appeared to minimize, but to mock, concerns of Flint residents over > the lead levels in their water, capped off by a grotesquely cynical > political stunt where he flamboyantly insisted on having a glass of > filtered tap water that he then pretended to drink, but in fact only > used to wet his lips, ingesting none of it. > President Barack Obama appears to drink water as he speaks at Flint > Northwestern High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016, about > the ongoing water crisis. > [See picture of Obama fake-drinking Flint water at Flint Northwestern > High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016 as he lectures on > the ongoing water crisis.] > A friendly meeting with Gov. Snyder after that – during which Obama > repeated the same water stunt – provided the GOP state administration in > Michigan with ample Obama quotes to exploit to prove the problem was > fixed, and for Flint residents, it was the final insult. “When President > Obama came here,” an African-American community leader in Flint tells > Moore, “he was my President. When he left, he wasn’t.” > Like the unregretful non-voters of Milwaukee, the collapsed hope Obama > left in his wake as he departed Flint becomes a key metaphor in Moore’s > hands for understanding Trump’s rise. Moore suggests to John Podesta, > who seems to agree, that Hillary lost Michigan because, as in Wisconsin, > voters, in part after seeing what Obama did in Flint, concluded it was > no longer worth voting. As Moore narrates: > The autocrat, the strongman, only succeeds when the vast majority of the > population decides they’ve seen enough, and give up. . . . . The worst > thing that President Obama did was pave the way for Donald Trump. > Because Donald Trump did not just fall from the sky. The road to him was > decades in the making. > The long, painful, extraordinarily compelling journey through Flint is > accompanied by an equally illuminating immersion in West Virginia, one > that brings into further vivid clarity the misery, deprivation, and > repression that drove so many people – for good reason – away from the > political establishment and into the arms of anyone promising to destroy > it: from the 2008 version of Obama to Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein to > Donald Trump to abstaining entirely from voting. Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley Boston.com reports "Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley agree on most things. But not everything." https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/michael-capuano-ayanna-pressley-policy-differences > However, when it comes to the military involvement of American soldiers > overseas, Capuano is the one with the more resolute position. > As The Intercept recently reported[1], both candidates were asked by the > local anti-war group Massachusetts Peace Action if they supported ending > the country’s military involvement in Syria and Afghanistan. > Capuano simply checked[2] yes for both questions, noting that he > introduced a bill to forbid military action in Syria without > congressional approval, voted several times to withdraw from > Afghanistan, and was additionally part of a small group of lawmakers who > sued the Obama administration in 2011 over its military action in > Libya. > On the other hand, Pressley declined to provide a simple yes-or-no > answer on Syria and Afghanistan. In a more detailed answer, the city > councilor wrote that, even though she first looks to “exhaust all > diplomatic and non-military options,” the United States has a > “responsibility” to ending the two conflicts and creating stability in > the region. > “It would be irresponsible to foreclose any potential avenues to > achieving that goal,” Pressley wrote. [1] https://theintercept.com/2018/08/18/mike-capuano-ayanna-pressley-massachusetts-primary/ [2] http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Capuano.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf [3] https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/lawmakers-sue-obama-over-libya-057032 [4] http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Pressley.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf -J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 22:42:41 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] News from Neptune, 21 September 2018 In-Reply-To: <23BA28B4-780F-4EB8-A9C2-F823F8C4FBD4@gmail.com> References: <23BA28B4-780F-4EB8-A9C2-F823F8C4FBD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: I highly recommend this podcast with Daniel Bessner over the one I mentioned on the show; I meant to transcribe it at some point but never got around to it. It covers his book about Rand and the "defense intellectuals." The Nostalgia Trap in general is an excellent podcast for historians concerned with current affairs from a radical perspective; it's also available through the Baffler website: https://nostalgiatrap.libsyn.com/nostalgia-trap-episode-85-daniel-bessner On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 2:22 PM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > News from Neptune #395 - "Bridging the Gap: No Trump Bids" > Episode video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLnDex72ASA > > [J. B. Nicholson] Notes about items from the show follow. > > Matt Taibbi interviews Noam Chomsky > > https://taibbi.substack.com/p/preface-an-interview-with-noam-chomsky-the-fairway > > > New York Times Leonhardt: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is a myth > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/16/opinion/columnists/democrats-midterms-progressive-left-trump.html > > > Jeffrey St. Clair's "Roaming Charges: the Chickenhawks Have Finally Come > Back Home to Roost!" > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/roaming-charges-4/ > > > Daniel Bessner's articles > Jacobin articles should be linked here: > https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/daniel-bessner > > On Dead Pundits Society show: > RSS of show: > https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:292981343/sounds.rss > Episode 64: The Deep, Deep State with Daniel Bessner: > http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/498307023-deadpundits-ep-64-the-deep-deep-state-w-daniel-bessner.mp3 > Episode 65: A Socialist Foreign Policy with Daniel Bessner (teaser): > http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/499206882-deadpundits-ep-65-a-socialist-foreign-policy-w-daniel-bessner-teaser.mp3 > > Recent opinion column in New York Times: > What Does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Think About the South China Sea?: > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/opinion/democratic-party-cortez-foreign-policy.html > > > "The Crisis of Democracy" book > PDF with text (so you can copy/paste quotes easily and accurately): > https://archive.org/download/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf > > > "The CIA Democrats" pointers courtesy of Karen Aram > > An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives > from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department are > seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 > midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence personnel > into the legislature has no precedent in US political history. > > Part 1 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html > Part 2 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/08/dems-m08.html > Part 3 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/09/dems-m09.html > Related: > The CIA Democrats vs. Julian Assange: > https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/23/pers-a23.html > CIA Democrat complains of political spying by Republicans: > https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/09/07/span-s07.html > > > George Kennan's Memo > Memo PPS23: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memo_PPS23_by_George_Kennan > > Thomas More's "Utopia": > Complete edition with notes in various formats: > http://theopenutopia.org/full-text/introduction-open-utopia/ > English translation: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2130 > Audiobook: https://librivox.org/search?title=Utopia&author=More > > > Michael Massing's "Fatal Discord: Erasmus, Luther, and the Fight for the > Western Mind" > ISBN-10: 0060517603 > ISBN-13: 978-0060517601 > > > Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9"-related interviews on DemocracyNow.org: > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_v_donald_trump_in > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_are_we_going_to > > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_democrats_made_fatal_mistake > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/19/michael_moore_senate_must_take_dr > > > Louis Proyect's review of "Fahrenheit 11/9" > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/moores-fahrenheit-11-9-entertaining-film-crappy-politics/ > > > Regarding David's considering not voting and "Fahrenheit 11/9" reviews, > consider Glenn Greenwald's latest for TheIntercept.com, a review of > Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9": > > https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/michael-moores-fahrenheit-119-aims-not-at-trump-but-at-those-who-created-the-conditions-that-led-to-his-rise/ > > Moore quickly escapes the dreary and misleading “Democrat v. GOP” > framework that dominates cable news by trumpeting “the largest political > party in America”: those who refuse to vote. He uses this powerful > graphic to tell that story: > [See picture of general election figures for Democratic, Republican, and > non-voters.] > It’s remarkable how little attention is paid to non-voters given that, > as Moore rightly notes, they form America’s largest political faction. > Part of why they’re ignored is moralism: those who don’t vote deserve no > attention as they have only themselves to blame. > But the much most consequential factor is the danger for both parties > from delving too deeply into this subject. After all, voter apathy > arises when people conclude that their votes don’t change their lives, > that election outcomes improve nothing, that the small amount of time > spent waiting in line at a voting booth isn’t worth the effort because > of how inconsequential it is. What greater indictment of the two > political parties can one imagine than that? > One of the most illuminating pieces of reporting about the 2016 election > is also, not coincidentally, one of the most ignored: interviews by the > New York Times with white and African-American working-class voters in > Milwaukee who refused to vote and – even knowing that Trump won > Wisconsin, and thus the presidency, largely because of their decision – > don’t regret it. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They > never do anything for us anyway,” the article quotes an African-American > barber, justifying his decision not to vote in 2016 after voting twice > for Obama. > Moore develops the same point, even more powerfully, about his home > state of Michigan, which – like Wisconsin – Trump also won after Obama > won it twice. In one of the most powerful and devastating passages from > the film – indeed, of any political documentary seen in quite some time > – “Fahrenheit 11/9″ takes us in real-time through the indescribably > shameful water crisis of Flint, the criminal cover-up of it by GOP > Governor Rick Snyder, and the physical and emotional suffering endured > by its poor, voiceless, and overwhelmingly black residents. > After many months of abuse, of being lied to, of being poisoned, Flint > residents, in May, 2016, finally had a cause for hope: President Obama > announced that he would visit Flint to address the water crisis. As Air > Force One majestically lands, Flint residents rejoice, believing that > genuine concern, political salvation, and drinkable water had finally > arrived. > Exactly the opposite happened. Obama delivered a speech in which he not > only appeared to minimize, but to mock, concerns of Flint residents over > the lead levels in their water, capped off by a grotesquely cynical > political stunt where he flamboyantly insisted on having a glass of > filtered tap water that he then pretended to drink, but in fact only > used to wet his lips, ingesting none of it. > President Barack Obama appears to drink water as he speaks at Flint > Northwestern High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016, about > the ongoing water crisis. > [See picture of Obama fake-drinking Flint water at Flint Northwestern > High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016 as he lectures on > the ongoing water crisis.] > A friendly meeting with Gov. Snyder after that – during which Obama > repeated the same water stunt – provided the GOP state administration in > Michigan with ample Obama quotes to exploit to prove the problem was > fixed, and for Flint residents, it was the final insult. “When President > Obama came here,” an African-American community leader in Flint tells > Moore, “he was my President. When he left, he wasn’t.” > Like the unregretful non-voters of Milwaukee, the collapsed hope Obama > left in his wake as he departed Flint becomes a key metaphor in Moore’s > hands for understanding Trump’s rise. Moore suggests to John Podesta, > who seems to agree, that Hillary lost Michigan because, as in Wisconsin, > voters, in part after seeing what Obama did in Flint, concluded it was > no longer worth voting. As Moore narrates: > The autocrat, the strongman, only succeeds when the vast majority of the > population decides they’ve seen enough, and give up. . . . . The worst > thing that President Obama did was pave the way for Donald Trump. > Because Donald Trump did not just fall from the sky. The road to him was > decades in the making. > The long, painful, extraordinarily compelling journey through Flint is > accompanied by an equally illuminating immersion in West Virginia, one > that brings into further vivid clarity the misery, deprivation, and > repression that drove so many people – for good reason – away from the > political establishment and into the arms of anyone promising to destroy > it: from the 2008 version of Obama to Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein to > Donald Trump to abstaining entirely from voting. > > > Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley > > Boston.com reports "Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley agree on most > things. But not everything." > > https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/michael-capuano-ayanna-pressley-policy-differences > > However, when it comes to the military involvement of American soldiers > overseas, Capuano is the one with the more resolute position. > As The Intercept recently reported[1], both candidates were asked by the > local anti-war group Massachusetts Peace Action if they supported ending > the country’s military involvement in Syria and Afghanistan. > Capuano simply checked[2] yes for both questions, noting that he > introduced a bill to forbid military action in Syria without > congressional approval, voted several times to withdraw from > Afghanistan, and was additionally part of a small group of lawmakers who > sued the Obama administration in 2011 over its military action in > Libya. > On the other hand, Pressley declined to provide a simple yes-or-no > answer on Syria and Afghanistan. In a more detailed answer, the city > councilor wrote that, even though she first looks to “exhaust all > diplomatic and non-military options,” the United States has a > “responsibility” to ending the two conflicts and creating stability in > the region. > “It would be irresponsible to foreclose any potential avenues to > achieving that goal,” Pressley wrote. > > > [1] > https://theintercept.com/2018/08/18/mike-capuano-ayanna-pressley-massachusetts-primary/ > [2] > http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Capuano.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf > [3] > https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/lawmakers-sue-obama-over-libya-057032 > [4] > http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Pressley.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf > > -J > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidgreen50 at gmail.com Sat Sep 22 22:42:41 2018 From: davidgreen50 at gmail.com (David Green) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 17:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Peace] [Peace-discuss] News from Neptune, 21 September 2018 In-Reply-To: <23BA28B4-780F-4EB8-A9C2-F823F8C4FBD4@gmail.com> References: <23BA28B4-780F-4EB8-A9C2-F823F8C4FBD4@gmail.com> Message-ID: I highly recommend this podcast with Daniel Bessner over the one I mentioned on the show; I meant to transcribe it at some point but never got around to it. It covers his book about Rand and the "defense intellectuals." The Nostalgia Trap in general is an excellent podcast for historians concerned with current affairs from a radical perspective; it's also available through the Baffler website: https://nostalgiatrap.libsyn.com/nostalgia-trap-episode-85-daniel-bessner On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 2:22 PM C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss < peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote: > News from Neptune #395 - "Bridging the Gap: No Trump Bids" > Episode video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLnDex72ASA > > [J. B. Nicholson] Notes about items from the show follow. > > Matt Taibbi interviews Noam Chomsky > > https://taibbi.substack.com/p/preface-an-interview-with-noam-chomsky-the-fairway > > > New York Times Leonhardt: "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is a myth > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/16/opinion/columnists/democrats-midterms-progressive-left-trump.html > > > Jeffrey St. Clair's "Roaming Charges: the Chickenhawks Have Finally Come > Back Home to Roost!" > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/roaming-charges-4/ > > > Daniel Bessner's articles > Jacobin articles should be linked here: > https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/daniel-bessner > > On Dead Pundits Society show: > RSS of show: > https://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:292981343/sounds.rss > Episode 64: The Deep, Deep State with Daniel Bessner: > http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/498307023-deadpundits-ep-64-the-deep-deep-state-w-daniel-bessner.mp3 > Episode 65: A Socialist Foreign Policy with Daniel Bessner (teaser): > http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/499206882-deadpundits-ep-65-a-socialist-foreign-policy-w-daniel-bessner-teaser.mp3 > > Recent opinion column in New York Times: > What Does Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Think About the South China Sea?: > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/17/opinion/democratic-party-cortez-foreign-policy.html > > > "The Crisis of Democracy" book > PDF with text (so you can copy/paste quotes easily and accurately): > https://archive.org/download/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf > > > "The CIA Democrats" pointers courtesy of Karen Aram > > An extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives > from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department are > seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 > midterm elections. The potential influx of military-intelligence personnel > into the legislature has no precedent in US political history. > > Part 1 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/07/dems-m07.html > Part 2 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/08/dems-m08.html > Part 3 of 3: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/09/dems-m09.html > Related: > The CIA Democrats vs. Julian Assange: > https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/04/23/pers-a23.html > CIA Democrat complains of political spying by Republicans: > https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/09/07/span-s07.html > > > George Kennan's Memo > Memo PPS23: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memo_PPS23_by_George_Kennan > > Thomas More's "Utopia": > Complete edition with notes in various formats: > http://theopenutopia.org/full-text/introduction-open-utopia/ > English translation: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2130 > Audiobook: https://librivox.org/search?title=Utopia&author=More > > > Michael Massing's "Fatal Discord: Erasmus, Luther, and the Fight for the > Western Mind" > ISBN-10: 0060517603 > ISBN-13: 978-0060517601 > > > Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9"-related interviews on DemocracyNow.org: > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_v_donald_trump_in > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_are_we_going_to > > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/21/michael_moore_democrats_made_fatal_mistake > https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/19/michael_moore_senate_must_take_dr > > > Louis Proyect's review of "Fahrenheit 11/9" > > https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/09/21/moores-fahrenheit-11-9-entertaining-film-crappy-politics/ > > > Regarding David's considering not voting and "Fahrenheit 11/9" reviews, > consider Glenn Greenwald's latest for TheIntercept.com, a review of > Moore's "Fahrenheit 11/9": > > https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/michael-moores-fahrenheit-119-aims-not-at-trump-but-at-those-who-created-the-conditions-that-led-to-his-rise/ > > Moore quickly escapes the dreary and misleading “Democrat v. GOP” > framework that dominates cable news by trumpeting “the largest political > party in America”: those who refuse to vote. He uses this powerful > graphic to tell that story: > [See picture of general election figures for Democratic, Republican, and > non-voters.] > It’s remarkable how little attention is paid to non-voters given that, > as Moore rightly notes, they form America’s largest political faction. > Part of why they’re ignored is moralism: those who don’t vote deserve no > attention as they have only themselves to blame. > But the much most consequential factor is the danger for both parties > from delving too deeply into this subject. After all, voter apathy > arises when people conclude that their votes don’t change their lives, > that election outcomes improve nothing, that the small amount of time > spent waiting in line at a voting booth isn’t worth the effort because > of how inconsequential it is. What greater indictment of the two > political parties can one imagine than that? > One of the most illuminating pieces of reporting about the 2016 election > is also, not coincidentally, one of the most ignored: interviews by the > New York Times with white and African-American working-class voters in > Milwaukee who refused to vote and – even knowing that Trump won > Wisconsin, and thus the presidency, largely because of their decision – > don’t regret it. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They > never do anything for us anyway,” the article quotes an African-American > barber, justifying his decision not to vote in 2016 after voting twice > for Obama. > Moore develops the same point, even more powerfully, about his home > state of Michigan, which – like Wisconsin – Trump also won after Obama > won it twice. In one of the most powerful and devastating passages from > the film – indeed, of any political documentary seen in quite some time > – “Fahrenheit 11/9″ takes us in real-time through the indescribably > shameful water crisis of Flint, the criminal cover-up of it by GOP > Governor Rick Snyder, and the physical and emotional suffering endured > by its poor, voiceless, and overwhelmingly black residents. > After many months of abuse, of being lied to, of being poisoned, Flint > residents, in May, 2016, finally had a cause for hope: President Obama > announced that he would visit Flint to address the water crisis. As Air > Force One majestically lands, Flint residents rejoice, believing that > genuine concern, political salvation, and drinkable water had finally > arrived. > Exactly the opposite happened. Obama delivered a speech in which he not > only appeared to minimize, but to mock, concerns of Flint residents over > the lead levels in their water, capped off by a grotesquely cynical > political stunt where he flamboyantly insisted on having a glass of > filtered tap water that he then pretended to drink, but in fact only > used to wet his lips, ingesting none of it. > President Barack Obama appears to drink water as he speaks at Flint > Northwestern High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016, about > the ongoing water crisis. > [See picture of Obama fake-drinking Flint water at Flint Northwestern > High School in Flint, Mich., Wednesday, May 4, 2016 as he lectures on > the ongoing water crisis.] > A friendly meeting with Gov. Snyder after that – during which Obama > repeated the same water stunt – provided the GOP state administration in > Michigan with ample Obama quotes to exploit to prove the problem was > fixed, and for Flint residents, it was the final insult. “When President > Obama came here,” an African-American community leader in Flint tells > Moore, “he was my President. When he left, he wasn’t.” > Like the unregretful non-voters of Milwaukee, the collapsed hope Obama > left in his wake as he departed Flint becomes a key metaphor in Moore’s > hands for understanding Trump’s rise. Moore suggests to John Podesta, > who seems to agree, that Hillary lost Michigan because, as in Wisconsin, > voters, in part after seeing what Obama did in Flint, concluded it was > no longer worth voting. As Moore narrates: > The autocrat, the strongman, only succeeds when the vast majority of the > population decides they’ve seen enough, and give up. . . . . The worst > thing that President Obama did was pave the way for Donald Trump. > Because Donald Trump did not just fall from the sky. The road to him was > decades in the making. > The long, painful, extraordinarily compelling journey through Flint is > accompanied by an equally illuminating immersion in West Virginia, one > that brings into further vivid clarity the misery, deprivation, and > repression that drove so many people – for good reason – away from the > political establishment and into the arms of anyone promising to destroy > it: from the 2008 version of Obama to Bernie Sanders to Jill Stein to > Donald Trump to abstaining entirely from voting. > > > Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley > > Boston.com reports "Michael Capuano and Ayanna Pressley agree on most > things. But not everything." > > https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/michael-capuano-ayanna-pressley-policy-differences > > However, when it comes to the military involvement of American soldiers > overseas, Capuano is the one with the more resolute position. > As The Intercept recently reported[1], both candidates were asked by the > local anti-war group Massachusetts Peace Action if they supported ending > the country’s military involvement in Syria and Afghanistan. > Capuano simply checked[2] yes for both questions, noting that he > introduced a bill to forbid military action in Syria without > congressional approval, voted several times to withdraw from > Afghanistan, and was additionally part of a small group of lawmakers who > sued the Obama administration in 2011 over its military action in > Libya. > On the other hand, Pressley declined to provide a simple yes-or-no > answer on Syria and Afghanistan. In a more detailed answer, the city > councilor wrote that, even though she first looks to “exhaust all > diplomatic and non-military options,” the United States has a > “responsibility” to ending the two conflicts and creating stability in > the region. > “It would be irresponsible to foreclose any potential avenues to > achieving that goal,” Pressley wrote. > > > [1] > https://theintercept.com/2018/08/18/mike-capuano-ayanna-pressley-massachusetts-primary/ > [2] > http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Capuano.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf > [3] > https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/lawmakers-sue-obama-over-libya-057032 > [4] > http://masspeaceaction.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Pressley.MAPA_.candidate.questionnaire.pdf > > -J > _______________________________________________ > Peace-discuss mailing list > Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/peace-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From naiman at justforeignpolicy.org Thu Sep 27 00:02:32 2018 From: naiman at justforeignpolicy.org (Robert Naiman) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Peace] Progressive Caucus Leads Renewed Congressional Effort to End Illegal U.S.-Saudi War in Yemen Message-ID: https://twitter.com/repmarkpocan/status/1045047100000612352 Thanks to @USProgressives @RepRoKhanna & @RepAdamSmith, @HouseDemocrats are uniting to end the devastating US-Saudi war in Yemen. We are grateful for @WhipHoyer, @RepEliotEngel, & @NitaLowey's involvement https://cpc-grijalva.house.gov/press-releases/cpc-leads- renewed-congressional-effort-to-end-illegal-ussaudi-war-in-yemen2/ *CPC Leads Renewed Congressional Effort to End Illegal U.S.-Saudi War in Yemen* *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:* September 26, 2018 *Press Contacts:* Ron Boehmer (Pocan) Geoff Nolan (Grijalva) *Washington, D.C.* – Congressional Progressive Caucus Vice Chair Ro Khanna (CA-17), CPC Member and ranking Democrat on House Armed Services Committee Adam Smith (WA-09), as well as CPC Co-Chairs Mark Pocan (WI-02) and Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-03) led a bipartisan group of two dozen lawmakers today in introducing *H.Con.Res. 138*, a privileged resolution to end unauthorized U.S. military participation in Saudi Arabia's war against Yemen’s Houthi rebels. The three-year-old U.S.-Saudi military campaign has triggered the world’s worst humanitarian crisis, leading the United Nations to warn of imminent, widespread famine. The lawmakers are invoking the War Powers Resolution of 1973 to force a floor vote to terminate U.S. military activities that constitute unauthorized hostilities such as midair U.S. refueling for Saudi-led coalition warplanes conducting airstrikes in Yemen as well as targeting assistance for the bombings. The congressional effort comes just two weeks after the Trump Administration defied legal checks on U.S. participation in the Saudi war by falsely certifying to Congress that the Saudi-led coalition was making “every effort ” to reduce civilian casualties resulting from its bombing campaign in order to continue U.S. midair refueling for Saudi-led airstrikes. Civilian deaths have skyrocketed in recent weeks. The Saudi regime has paired a deadly air campaign, which in August killed 40 Yemeni children with a U.S.-supplied bomb , with a blockade on Yemen’s major port, preventing adequate food, medicine and fuel from reaching 75 percent of Yemen’s population in need of humanitarian assistance. As a result of fresh military escalations, aid group Save the Children warned that an additional 1 million Yemeni children are threatened by starvation. The congressional effort follows a similar measure introduced by Reps. Khanna, Pocan, Massie, and Jones in September 2017, H.Con.Res. 81 , which obtained over 50 cosponsors in support of ending the U.S.-Saudi war. In March 2018, CPC founding member Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) advanced a companion resolution with Senators Lee (R-UT) and Murphy (D-CT), which secured 44 votes in support. Reps. Khanna, Smith and the CPC Co-Chairs were joined today by Ranking Members Jim McGovern (MA-02) Eliot Engel (NY-16), and Nita Lowey (NY-17), Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (MD-05), and Reps. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09), Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02), Thomas Massie (KY-04), Michael Capuano (MA-07), Yvette Clarke (NY-09), Ted Lieu (CA-33), Barbara Lee (CA-13), Beto O’Rourke (TX-16), Adriano Espaillat (NY-13), Joe Kennedy (Ma-04), Joe Courtney (CT-2), Gwen Moore (WI-04), Walter Jones (NC-03), Debbie Dingell (MI-12), Pramila Jayapal (WA-07), Peter DeFazio (OR-04), Earl Blumenauer (OR-03), Ted Deutch (FL-22), and Peter Welch (VT-AL). “When I introduced a similar War Powers resolution last year, I, along with Reps. Pocan, Massie, and Jones, were among a small group of members of Congress calling for an end to the U.S. involvement in the Saudi War in Yemen. One year later, the bloodshed continues with widespread destruction and disease contributing to the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. U.S.-fueled planes continue to drop U.S.-made bombs on innocent victims,” said *Rep. Khanna.* “This time around, our coalition to end the war has expanded and the call for withdrawing U.S. involvement is louder. This policy started by a few original cosponsors of our War Powers resolution is now supported by Whip Hoyer, the ranking members of the House Armed Services, Foreign Affairs, Rules and Appropriations Committees, and it is now a mainstream position within the Democratic Party. In fact, 44 U.S. Senators, including the Democratic Leader and Whip, voted in favor of a similar War Powers resolution. I am confident the House Republican leadership will allow this resolution to come to a vote and that members of the House will hear from their constituents in support of our position against this unauthorized war contributing to Yemen’s humanitarian catastrophe.” “Yemen is facing the worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now that has been significantly exacerbated by the civil war. The impact of the Saudi-coalition’s actions on the dire humanitarian crisis is undeniable,” said *Rep. Adam Smith*. “The U.S. should be aggressively pushing a peaceful solution to end this civil war instead of supporting the Saudi-led coalition military campaign that has only destabilized the crisis further. We must make it clear that U.S. should not be choosing sides in this civil war while the people of Yemen continue to suffer.” “The world’s worst humanitarian crisis has been triggered by our secretive, illegal war in Yemen waged alongside the Saudi regime. I am proud to join my progressive and conservative colleagues in co-leading this vital effort to force the House of Representatives to finally debate and vote on removing U.S. forces from this senseless conflict,” said *Rep. Pocan*. “As the Saudis use famine as a weapon of war, starving millions of innocent Yemenis to near death, the United States fuels, coordinates and provides bombs for Saudi airstrikes, and secretly deploys the military to participate in on-the-ground operations with Saudi troops. We must work across the aisle to rein in our unauthorized involvement in this tragedy by reasserting our constitutional duty over war and peace.” “Our country has no business aiding and abetting the perpetrators of the humanitarian crisis in Yemen,” said *Rep. Raúl M. Grijalva.* “The secretive and illegal U.S. involvement in a war that has resulted in thousands of deaths, mass starvation, and rampant destruction deserves to be exposed and condemned. It’s time for Congress to stop behaving as a subservient peon of the White House, reassert itself as a co-equal branch of government, and end the U.S. military involvement in Yemen, which is only exacerbating an unstable situation.” “The actions of the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen are fast-approaching the level of crimes against humanity,” said *Rep. McGovern.* “The United States must send a clear and unambiguous message to Saudi Arabia – their actions are unacceptable to the international community and will not be tolerated by the United States. As millions of Yemenis face senseless violence, starvation, and disease, America cannot remain a complicit and passive partner in carrying out one of the world’s greatest humanitarian crises.” “Congress never authorized military action in Yemen as our Constitution requires, yet we continue to fund and assist Saudi Arabia in this tragic conflict,” said *Rep. Massie.* “It’s long past time Congress held a debate and vote as to whether U.S. soldiers and personnel should be involved in this war.” “The United States is complicit in the humanitarian catastrophe in Yemen. The Saudi-Emirati coalition has unleashed unthinkable horrors on the civilians of Yemen, and it is shameful that the U.S. is participating in this war,” said *Rep. Barbara Lee.* “This war was never voted on by Congress. In the face of unspeakable carnage and suffering, the United States should be building a pathway to peace – not supporting a coalition that bombs civilians. Congress needs to make its voice heard and demand an end to U.S. participation in this inhumane war.” “Congress has a constitutional responsibility to authorize and provide oversight of military conflicts. We have done neither for the conflict in Yemen – where our military has supported airstrikes that have killed scores of innocent civilians, including children,” said *Rep. Lieu. *“Enforcing the role of Congress in overseeing U.S. involvement in conflicts abroad guarantees that this issue will finally receive the critical debate it deserves.” “For too long, the United States has turned a blind eye to the horrifying atrocities committed against Yemeni civilians by the Saudi-U.S. coalition, killing, maiming and starving innocent civilians since the start of this genocidal war in 2015,” said *Rep. Gabbard.* “Even after Saudi Arabia dropped a bomb on a school bus that killed 40 children last month, the Trump Administration reaffirmed its support for this illegal war, which Congress has never approved. The U.S. must end its support for Saudi Arabia now.” “As Democrats search for a foreign-policy vision that inspires voters and reflects a clean break with the endless militarism of the Washington establishment, we applaud the Congressional Progressive Caucus and its leaders, such as Reps. Khanna, Smith, and Pocan, for their moral clarity as they chart a course toward stronger constitutional governance and less human suffering,” said *David Segal, Executive Director, Demand Progress*. “This resolution promises to put a decisive end to the famine, disease, and bombings that threaten tens of millions in Yemen by relying on a simple principle: war must first be debated and voted on by the people’s elected representatives. Demand Progress is proud to support this measure to employ sunlight and democracy to rein in the secretive and devastating military campaigns that the Executive Branch has pursued under both parties.” "For far too long, the United States has fueled the suffering in Yemen. Our military's continued support for the Saudi and UAE led coalition, even in the face of repeated war crimes, must immediately end. We are grateful that a bipartisan group of members of Congress, led by Rep. Ro Khanna, HASC Ranking Member Adam Smith, and CPC Co-Chair Mark Pocan, are leading the charge to put an end to our unauthorized role in this deadly war,” said *Stephen Miles, Director at Win Without War. *“We call on all members of Congress to join them and help finally end the world's largest man-made humanitarian crisis." "As a result of American support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen, millions are facing starvation and the country is battling what may be the worst cholera epidemic in history,” said *Kaili Lambe, Organizing Director at CREDO Action*. “American-made bombs have killed civilians – many of them children, all without explicit authorization from Congress. It is crucial that Congress assert its responsibility and vote to end U.S. support for the war in Yemen by supporting the legislation sponsored by Reps. Khanna, Pocan and Smith.” "This resolution should be a no-brainer for Congress. What more do they need to finally end this tragedy? If they're not persuaded by the fact that the U.S. is engaging in unauthorized warfare, the growing civilian body count should demand their attention,” said *Elizabeth Beavers, Associate Policy Director at for Indivisible*. “This is the world's largest humanitarian crisis, and blood is on the hands of those who do not act to stop it." “This House resolution offers a glimmer of hope to the suffering people of Yemen because if the U.S. withdraws its support for the Saudi-led bombing, a negotiated settlement is sure to follow,” said *Medea Benjamin, co-director at CODEPINK.* “Let's make sure the August bombing of a busload of children marks a turning point in US policy.” “As Quakers, we support legislation to end U.S. involvement in the Saudi-led war that is slaughtering men, women, and children in Yemen. By refueling Saudi and Emirati jets as they bomb civilians, the U.S. is enabling the world’s largest humanitarian crisis. We applaud Representatives Ro Khanna, Adam Smith, and Mark Pocan for their bipartisan initiative to reassert Congress’ constitutional authority to end this illegal war,” said *Diane Randall, Executive Secretary, Friends Committee on National Legislation (FCNL)*, a Quaker lobby in the public interest. “Quakers and friends across the country are mobilizing to urge their members of Congress to support this initiative and end this illegal war.” "Just Foreign Policy strongly welcomes the bipartisan initiative of Reps. Khanna, Smith, Pocan, Massie and others to invoke the War Powers Resolution to force a floor vote to end unconstitutional U.S. participation in the Saudi regime's biblically-catastrophic war and blockade in Yemen,” said *Robert Naiman, Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy*. “The Saudi regime is deliberately causing famine in Yemen and deliberately helping strengthen Al Qaeda in Yemen. These barbaric Saudi policies that are hurting Americans will stop when the United States government stops illegally enabling them. We expect the long-overdue House invocation of its war powers to end this abomination to be a decisive step towards asserting Constitutional war powers to end other unconstitutional wars and towards preventing unconstitutional wars in the future." "The war in Yemen being waged by the Saudi and Emirati-led coalition is brutal, bloody, and a humanitarian disaster of immense proportions--and the coalition is losing. America is supporting that coalition with military assets such as refueling tankers and precision-guided munitions. Our support is unconstitutional because Congress hasn't approved it,” said *Lawrence Wilkerson, Professor of Government at the College of William and Mary and former chief of staff to secretary of state Colin Powell*. “The solution is simple: invoke the Constitution and the War Powers Act and give the President a choice--stop the support or seek Congressional approval." “Rarely does Congress have an opportunity make a difference in the lives of millions of people. This legislation is one such chance, and the time to act is now,” said *William D. Hartung, Director, Arms and Security Project, Center for International Policy*. “Representatives Khanna, Pocan, Smith and their colleagues are to be commended for taking urgent and necessary action to end the suffering in Yemen.” “In another effort by Congress to take back its constitutional mandate to declare war, Peace Action applauds Reps. Adam Smith, Ro Khanna, Barbara Lee, Jim McGovern, Mark Pocan, Thomas Massie and others for invoking the War Powers Resolution to stop the illegal involvement of the U.S. in the Yemen war,” said *Paul Kawika Martin the Senior Director, Policy and Political Affairs for Peace Action*, the largest grassroots peace organization in the United States. “Peace Action helped pass the War Powers Resolution in 1973 over the veto of President Nixon so Congress can stop the White House and the Pentagon from engaging in costly wars that make Americans less safe.” “The Committee for Responsible Foreign Policy commends Reps. Ro Khanna, Adam Smith, and Mark Pocan for their leadership on this issue, and for their commitment to the Constitution's Article I Congressional War Powers,” said *George O'Neill, Jr., founder of the Committee for Responsible Foreign Policy.* “The decision to go to war is one of the most important decisions a nation can make, and it is appropriate for Congress to vote on the United States' partnership with Saudi Arabia in the war in Yemen, which has created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world.” Read the text of H.Con.Res. 138 here . Additional resources: Reps. Khanna, Pocan, Jones – “Stop the Unconstitutional War in Yemen ,” *New York Times*, Oct. 10, 2017 Rep. Khanna – “Congress Must Act to Stop US Involvement in the Yemen War ,” *The Nation*, June 18, 2018 ### *The Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) is the largest caucus within the House Democratic Caucus, with over 70 members standing up for progressive ideals in Washington and throughout the country. Since 1991, the CPC has advocated for progressive policies that prioritize working Americans over corporate interests, fight economic and social inequality, and promote civil liberties. The CPC champions progressive policy solutions like comprehensive immigration reform, a $15 national minimum wage, fair trade, gun violence reform, debt-free college, and making the federal government a Model Employer.* Follow CPC Website – Twitter – Facebook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From susanroseparenti at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 00:27:14 2018 From: susanroseparenti at gmail.com (Susan Parenti) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:27:14 -0500 Subject: [Peace] reason #2: for why learn how to mosaic? Message-ID: [image: image.png] Join us this Sunday, September 30th, 12-3pm, at 122 Franklin (where the dead end street turns into Crystal Lake Park )--15 mosaic teachers will greet you, work/play with you, and you'll make a mosaic you can take home. 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Here are some reasons why everyone who can vote before the last day of voting should do so: - No lines. - People who vote on the last day will face a shorter line if you’re not in it. - If current County Clerk Gordy Hulten’s office doesn’t send enough polling booths or ballots to the polling place for your precinct on the last day of voting, it won’t affect you if you’ve already voted. The people in your precinct it does affect will be affected less badly if you’re not standing in the same line. The fewer unnecessarily long lines there are on the last day of voting, the fewer unnecessarily discouraged voters there will be. - If there’s any problem with your voter registration – or anybody claims that there is – it’s much easier to deal with before the last day of voting. - You already know now everything you need to know about the candidates to vote, or can quickly find it out. You can get the sample ballot for your precinct at the County Clerk’s website. You can look up any candidate you don’t know on the internet and ask your friends if they know anything. Your sample ballot is here: https://www.champaigncountyclerk.com/elections/voter-information - The more people vote earlier, the less payoff there is for last-minute dirty tricks of every kind. No “October surprise” can touch you if you voted in September. - You never know what’s going to be going on in your life on the last day of voting. You might have to suddenly leave town for a family emergency. That’s how I missed the 2012 primary. If you’ve already voted, and you have some kind of emergency, it’s “in the bag.” That’s one less thing you have to worry about. Basic info on voting before the last day of voting can be found here: https://www.aaronammons.com/early-voting/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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