[Peace] [Peace-discuss] Bernie again

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 25 20:33:43 UTC 2019


What I don’t like, is the lumping of all, left Democrats, DSA, Bernie supporters, under the banner of “socialists,” Democratic socialists perhaps.

There are distinct differences in the various groups, and those who truly support socialism as Marxists, don’t support anyone running as a Democrat. We know very well, anyone doing that is a “reformist,” and while reform would be nice, its so unlikely the ruling elites will ever allow the roots of capitalism be destroyed. 

“Medicare for All,” like the "New Green Deal," will be so watered down as to be of little consequence. I know, a little is better than nothing, but until we change our system of capitalism we will continue to have insurance cos., pharma cos. controlling our healthcare system. 

We will continue to have devastation of earth, with global warming, given the Green New Deal has already been watered down in respect to the use of fossil fuels.

And, we will have continued, perpetual war, and imperialism. The very topic none of the left Democrats, the DSA, Bernie, or pseudo socialist groups care to discuss.  

The article does make some good points, in relation to who controls what, and why, but given it will never make it into the classrooms of America, its sarcasm appears to diminish socialism, as if a “disneyland utopia.” Therefore its counterproductive.  




> On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:04, Brussel, Morton K via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> This darkened (overwrought) sarcasm tends to obscure what should be seriously considered. It’s well  overcooked, and not quite amusing. (IMHO)
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:50 PM, C G Estabrook via Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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>> http://www.unz.com/chopkins/the-magic-socialist/
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>> Will any of this dark sarcasm make it into UI classrooms?
>> 
>> —CGE
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