[Peace] A useful set of opinions and suggestions

Thu May 7 21:24:59 UTC 2020

Dave,

So, you don’t fear or care if Trump gets another term? I do, despite not disagreeing with most of your arguments. Despite what you say, this election is important just so the present government leadership does not continue.  I can’t imagine any worse outcomes then to again have Pompeo, Abrams, Pence, Vos, and the like again destroying lives here and abroad. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, …, the “Justice” department and the Supreme Court. Saying we must organize for a better future is valid, but it does not seem feasible to me in the short term, in the next months or year, unless a popular reawakening and action dramatically changes. Do you think the Green Party is up to the challenge? Coronavirus could present an opportunity given how dreadful economic conditions are given all those now unemployed, —or perhaps the converse, totalitarianism may emerge?

"Nothing will change for the better"? But it can well change for the worse. And by November. We are between a rock and a hard place. 

> On May 7, 2020, at 1:05 PM, David Johnson via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net> wrote:
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> Mort,
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> The President of the United States does NOTHING without the support of the majority of the U.S. corporate oligarchy.
> IF Fascism comes to the U.S., it will only happen if that is what a majority of the corporate ruling class wants, and that can happen under Biden just as easily as Trump.
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> The proof is in the pudding in regards to how ineffective this failed strategy of lesser evil voting has been for the last 30 years. More often than not, the lesser evil is the more EFFECTIVE evil.  A Republican like Bob Dole and H.W. Bush during the 1990’s would never have been able to get all of the horrible laws passed that Bill Clinton did. Like NAFTA, the racist crime bill, the destruction of aid to families with dependent children, the telecommunications act, the destabilization and destruction of Yugoslavia, and last but not least, the repeal of the Glass Stiegel Act. I could provide an even longer list for Obama.
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> NOTHING will change for the better in this country until we have a REAL opposition party which takes no corporate money and has a movement behind it. 
> The failure of Bernie Sanders ( who I supported ) is proof that the corporate oligarchy will NEVER allow change for the better to happen within the Democratic party. And in addition, the Democratic party is corrupting. Look at how fast AOC, Rashid Taibi, Ro Khana, and even TUlsi Gabbard and Ihlan Omar, and Bernie Sanders folded and went along with the corporate agenda with this recent SIX TRILLION DOLLAR corporate robbery. Not to mention Sanders refusing to call out and challenge the massive ELECTION FRAUD used against him on Super Tuesday and how fast he folded up his campaign and supported Biden. All have bent the knee to the corporate oligarchy through it’s surrogate the DNC.
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> We need a REAL opposition and a REAL resistance, NOT two corporate parties pretending to be enemies and then wondering why things continue to get worse ( a 40 year decline since 1980 ) and nothing changes for the better. 
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> And as Karen said, there is a storm of social unrest coming, and if people like us do not offer solutions ( as opposed to telling them to vote for more Democrats who are as mush the reason for the problems we have as the Republicans )  than the real Fascists will offer them a “ solution “.
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> David J.
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> From: Peace [mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace-bounces at lists.chambana.net>] On Behalf Of Morton K. Brussel via Peace
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:38 AM
> To: Karen Aram
> Cc: Morton K. Brussel; Peace
> Subject: Re: [Peace] A useful set of opinions and suggestions
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> You will be interested in a debate/exchange/discussion between Paul Jay and ?? Prasad, who takes your position. This debate is also available on Jay’s new outlet. 
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> The question not answered to my satisfaction is what to do about the coming election? Ignore it, and wait for better opportunities, or realize that another four years of Trump administration can be world shaking, one way or the other. Chomsky understands and worries about this; he is not alone.   Prasad says “we" just have to work harder to assemble a truly militant and progressive mass who could swing things towards a more promising world for most of its population. Yet, he is not optimistic that it can be done!. So what to do now? As compromised and bad as Biden and the Dems in general are nationally, they are better than the Repubs on many crucial, if not all, issues. The environment, equity/justice?, education, universal health, climate change, …, some arguable. Better at holding back emerging facism. 
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> It’s a pretty dreadful situation we are all facing, agravated now with the pandemic and its foreboding consequences.
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> On May 7, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Karen Aram via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> Sorry, but I found the article very disappointing. Paul Jay is little different than Chomsky, with his support for Biden “as the lesser evil.” 
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> They do a great job of defining the problem, but their recommended solutions support the very problem defined.
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> This continuation of support for the Democrat Party, I’m referring to the federal government, not local which is a different topic all together, because the Republican Party is so awful, given they are basically one and the same, differing only in respect to strategy and tactics, keeps liberals in fantasy land, and on their asses arguing over which team is better as if a football game, and every four years voting, which is also a joke, given the corruption involved in our so called democracy. 
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> The statement: "Before Covid-19, as the primaries were held, the economy appeared to be robust and enough people were doing well enough to avoid social unrest. Fear of Trump and a full court press against Sanders waged by the Democratic Party establishment and its media allies, made people reluctant to break from conventional politics. It swung the vote to Biden,”
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> is the most accurate portrayal of US electoral politics. It is the goal of the DNC ruling elites to prevent social unrest, which could possibly result in system change. Make no mistake there will be social unrest, the disenfranchised will break out in anarchy, and violence resulting in chaos and destruction unless middle class liberals join up with those suffering inequality and whats to come, in changing our system of capitalism which is responsible for all. 
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> Yes, there needs to be a plan, organized with an agenda for what takes place after, as well as leadership. There are organizations offering such, and only if they join together in common cause utilizing civil resistance with protests, marches, strikes, sit downs, preventing business as usual, focusing not on one person in the WH, but Congress, Wall St., the banks, etc……….
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> On May 6, 2020, at 18:31, Morton K. Brussel via Peace <peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:peace at lists.chambana.net>> wrote:
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> By Paul Jay. 
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> https://theanalysis.news/commentary/covid-19-get-ready-for-the-coming-storm/ <https://theanalysis.news/commentary/covid-19-get-ready-for-the-coming-storm/>
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