[Peace] Bernie, the police, and round up of protestors.

Karen Aram karenaram at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 21 14:57:12 UTC 2020


I’m sorry that this discussion has turned into another “he said, she said,” focus on the individual. To quote Chomsky:  “The world is at the most dangerous moment in history.”
"The US professor warns that the climate crisis, the threat of nuclear war and rising authoritarianism mean the risk of human extinction has never been greater.” 

He is spot on when we consider the recent fires throughout the west coast, the military on the streets of Portland, melting glaciers and rising sea levels, as well as the recent abrogation of the US/China “One China Policy,” agreement, as we sell more weapons to Taiwan. The Pentagon has just moved more troops and weapons into Syria to counteract Russia.

I do see economics, or the “material conditions,” as the base for policies of racism, and discrimination, whether here or abroad. Capitalism thrives on war and interventions, it needs imperialism to survive. Racist policies were necessary to contain and maintain slavery and continuing exploitation. 

Today the killing of AfroAmerican’s by police with impunity is nothing new and blatant as we continue to eliminate those we see as expendable, beginning with people of color, but to include all poor.

As to culture, yes it certainly does matter, Gramsci focused on it:

“In his essay “The Intellectuals,” written between 1929 and 1935, Gramsci described the power of ideology to reproduce the social structure through institutions such as religion and education.” Wikipedia. 
Today I’m sure, Gramsci would be crediting the media, which includes the entertainment industry. As well as the “Mindfulness,” focus which began during the sixties by the CIA, influenced by Edward Bernaise with their Cointelprogram under the “Congress of Cultural Freedom,” focused on creating a culture of individualism in order to prevent the type of collectivism the unions, communists and socialists of the past, used to influence FDR that brought about the 8 hour working day, the New Deal plus other marks of civilization for which the US became known, but no longer exist.
The original article I posted by the WSWS was not hyperbolic, in reference to the round up of socialists and communists. When one considers thousands of people have been protesting in the Denver area over the murder of a young AfroAmerican, by police with impunity, per usual. Then we have police going to the homes of some leaders, primarily socialists of the “Party for Socialism and Liberation," a growing organization of young people across the US, to arrest and incarcerate on absurd allegations. This act to deter protests, is historical in its focus on those who threaten power. 
Please see BreakThroughNews, which goes into detail: https://www.facebook.com/BTnewsroom/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARA8bCChXYVocai9aWSM5XZQ_ebM1HHzcrZ9ZMv-rAzuHTdlTZ_y-GaGH75aWHOrZvqh.
> On Sep 20, 2020, at 20:51, Brussel, Morton K <brussel at illinois.edu> wrote:
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> Reading all this leaves me with the notion that ideology of both the right and the left tends to obscure reality. There’s more to the develpment of society than just economics and class. Culture and mores are not totally encompassed by economic arguments in my opinion. 
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> The attack on Sanders and his statements about the police, and the author’s claim that Sanders is simply a lapdog for the Dems is trite, simplistic. He’s more complicated than that.
> 
> Police do obviously have a positive societal function relative to obvious civic criminality as defined by just law, helping old people crossing streets, directing traffic, etc., and just how that function is put into play is vitally important, but their other more malign function is to protect the status quo, a repressive function, especially when the "status quo" is the realm of those who govern, usually the wealthy, élite, the corrupt and powerful who are pitted against those who struggle for greater equality, opportunity, ”justice”, and societal resources. I don’t think one needs to argue about the obvious fantasyland occupied by right wing totalitarianism, corporatism, neoliberalism, the rule of those who are willing to ruin the earth for their selfish inhumane interests.
> 
> I’m wandering…, but have in mind that Sanders’ statements regarding police funding involves the issues cited above.
> It should be said that I am not a full fledged admirer of Sanders, especially on foreigh policy, and military and national security. 
> 
> Thanks Karen for your thoughts and reference on this issue.  
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Karen Aram <karenaram at hotmail.com <mailto:karenaram at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Mort, please see below one article, referencing another in the New Yorker, in respect to Bernie’s opposition to “defunding police.” 
>> 
>> Let me be clear as to my own position: defunding or abolishing police is too simplistic a solution which likely would result in mercenaries being hired by the affluent. Vigilantes roaming the streets with weapons is also an unattractive result. Why do we have so many armed militia groups now? Unemployment is a likely answer. We had an example when the US disarmed Sadam’s military in Iraq, they joined ISIS. Many of the militants joined ISIS as the only jobs available.
>> 
>> Without reading the full context of Bernie’s letter we don’t know if he called for the de-militarization of the police, which would be a form of defunding, as well as a major change in training, no more Israeli’s training US police depts. Or as I have pointed out to some locals, Portland solved their problem of police abuse in the 80’s by installing trained volunteers, non police, non weaponed personnel to handle many calls that require merely persuasion, counseling, medical assistance, etc., it has been effective in reducing police crime there for over 30 years. 
>> 
>> The previous article I submitted, related to the militarized round up and incarceration of peaceful protestors, on trumped charges should send a chill down the spine of every American, given this is the way it begins. Round up of Communists, along murder with impunity of those most vulnerable, being the poor and people of color, in the US African Americans.
>> In response to protests over police violence
>> Sanders opposes “defunding” police, calls for increased pay for cops
>> By Genevieve Leigh
>> 13 June 2020
>> Last week, Senator Bernie Sanders wrote a letter to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer politely requesting “far-reaching reforms” to address the issue of police brutality. Amid nationwide calls against police violence, Sanders’ proposals include multiple appeals to increase the funding for police departments and to give police officers a pay raise.
>> The letter states that in order to “modernize and humanize police departments we need to enhance the recruitment pool by ensuring that the resources are available to pay wages that will attract the top tier officers we need to do the difficult work of policing.”
>> With regard to the epidemic of police murder, Sanders merely calls for the establishment of “independent police conduct review boards” that would have the authority to refer police violence to federal authorities for investigation. “Clearly,” he states, “we need to enhance federal funding for such investigations.”
>> 
>> Sanders and Biden
>> In a lengthy interview with the New Yorker magazine released on Wednesday, Sanders was asked about his proposal to increase police department funding. In his response, he denied calling for an increase in funding but doubled down on his call for pay raises for police officers: “I didn’t call for more money for police departments. I called for police departments that have well-educated, well-trained, well-paid professionals.”
>> Sanders told the New Yorker, “I think we want to redefine what police departments do.”
>> He concluded by stating that “anyone who thinks that we should abolish all police departments in America, I don’t agree.”
>> It is difficult to state Sanders’ position more plainly than he does himself.
>> Beyond the police officer pay raises, the mild reformist measures that Sanders proposes to “transform” or “redefine” the police department broadly fall into one of two categories: either they would never be passed by Congress or, if passed, they would amount to nothing more than “lipstick on a pig,” as the saying goes.
>> The real significance of Sanders’ proposals is that he is openly defending the police against those who are calling for its “defunding” or abolition.
>> There is nothing that distinguishes Sanders’ proposals from any other Democratic Party politician. Under the Obama administration, police killings raged in the US unabated. Obama responded to the killing of Eric Garner in 2014, a police murder that bears a striking resemblance to the killing of George Floyd, by making similar calls for “patience and persistence.” At the time Obama proclaimed that “this was the time” to “start a conversation.”
>> The Obama administration proposed various commissions and bodies supposedly tasked with addressing police violence. Obama went on, however, to continue funneling military equipment to police departments and defending cops whenever cases of police abuse came before the Supreme Court.
>> Sanders’ position boils down to an absolute defense of the police, which are an instrument of class rule. Police violence and police repression of mass protests against this violence express this essential role.
>> Sanders’ attitude to the police, moreover, is inextricably connected to his defense of the state and in particular the Democratic Party, one of the twin parties of the ruling class.
>> In the 2020 elections, Sanders is attempting to reprise his role in 2016 by channeling opposition behind the Democratic Party. In response to a question on his efforts to support Clinton in the 2016 election, Sanders told the New Yorker, “I did everything that I could in 2016 to move the Democratic Party in a more progressive way and to see that Hillary Clinton was elected. I worked very, very hard in trying to do that.”
>> Sanders’ then argued that “the difference now” is that he has “a better relationship” with Biden then he had with Clinton. He added: “Biden has been much more receptive to sitting down and talking with me and other progressives than we have seen in the past.”
>> Sanders must take his former supporters to be fools. Is one supposed to believe that Biden will be convinced to implement progressive reform based on Sanders’ friendly relationship to “his good friend Joe”?
>> Support for Joe Biden means support for the social interests that he represents and the program that he is advancing. Biden has spent nearly five decades as a faithful servant of the ruling class. He has an extensive record of support for war, austerity, capital punishment and mass incarceration. Furthermore, Biden has made clear that he plans to run a right-wing campaign that includes a major escalation <https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/04/20/bide-a20.html> of military tensions with Russia and China.
>> As in 2016, Sanders is insisting that everything must be done to “defeat Trump.” However, the Trump administration is a product of the capitalist system. It is acting at the behest of the financial oligarchy, which the Democrats represent as well. Moreover, the channeling of social anger behind the right-wing Clinton campaign in 2016 was what allowed Trump to posture as an opponent of the status quo and created the conditions for his victory.
>> Since Trump came to power, the Democrats have worked hand over fist to suppress popular opposition to his administration and have instead elevated the most right-wing military figures as the “official” opposition.
>> The Democrats—Sanders included—have said nothing <https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/06/03/pers-j03.html> about Trump’s efforts to overturn the Constitution and establish military rule. Instead, they have relied on the military as the arbiter of politics in the United States.
>> It is notable that in Sanders’ interview with the New Yorker he made a point of praising General James Mattis’s condemnation of Trump’s response to the protests, saying that he was “very impressed” by the general’s statement. Mattis earned the nickname “Mad Dog” for leading the bloody US campaign to retake the Iraqi city of Fallujah in 2004 and boasted to his troops during his command of US forces in Afghanistan that “it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot” Afghans.
>> Sanders has proven again and again his commitment to upholding the interests of the American ruling class abroad through his consistent votes for the military budget, his support for the war in Afghanistan, his calls for drones—“all of that and more”—and his statement <https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/11/sand-j11.html> just this year that “some wars are necessary.” It should come as no surprise that he supports the defense of these same interests at home.
>> While Sanders is attempting to play the same role that he did in 2016, he is doing so under incredibly explosive conditions in which the class antagonisms within the US are bursting at the seams.
>> In response to the coronavirus pandemic, the corporate and financial oligarchy, after doing nothing to protect the population, moved quickly to transfer trillions of dollars into the coffers of corporations, big business and Wall Street. All of these policies have been unanimously endorsed by the Democratic and Republican politicians alike, including Sanders himself.
>> Whatever their tactical differences, the entire political establishment, Democratic and Republican, defends the police forces of the state and is preparing to use them against growing social opposition in the working class.
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