[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

john duda john at manifestor.org
Wed Jul 21 18:03:16 CDT 2004


why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
publishing...

like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
searchable site of all us indymedia features.  

this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.

my two cents,
john




On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
> hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and listened to it
> at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words about it.
> 
> I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia articles, I
> actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be great
> outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
> moderating the sites :-)
> 
> However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be indymedia for
> google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont really
> like it.
> 
> Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like to
> think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
> respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of pandering to
> the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
> 
> THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are alternatives
> to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer a
> community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we do
> enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will and it
> wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the interests of
> our communities at heart.
> 
> Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and not try
> to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
> peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can do to
> change that.
> 
> This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and reflect the
> indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we could talk
> about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger events
> that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a couple
> of months.
> 
> bht
> 
> 
> > Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for open
> > publishing with a
> > different root address that would be enough distance to make google happy.
> > us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
> >
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