[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

[deva]

I like this approach -

Why are you opposed to deleting things that are obviously local?

deva



On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:40 PM, Joshua Breitbart wrote:

> I think an Oceania-style site would work just fine, especially if 
> there was a way to promote an article from the wire to the center 
> column. When I say promote to the center column, I mean with no 
> editorial changes, just that an abstract and photo became visible.
>
> In place of a US editorial team, local editorial teams could 
> occasionally produce compilation features drawing on the work of many 
> IMCs. These could then be promoted to the US center column. This would 
> be a lot easier for a local team to do once there was a US features 
> wire.
>
> So all a US editorial team would do is promote 1-3 features a day to 
> the center column and categorize the wire. (I am opposed to deleting 
> things that are "obviously local" for reasons I can explain 
> separately.)
>
> We lose a little bit of the collaboration that comes from producing 
> features together, but there's no reason local editors couldn't 
> contact editors from other IMCs, or cc the US-features listserv.
>
>
> Josh
>
>
> At 4:03 PM -0700 7/21/04, john duda wrote:
>> why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
>> a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
>> template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
>> publishing...
>>
>> like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
>> we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
>> syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
>> up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
>> from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
>> work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
>> with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
>> searchable site of all us indymedia features.
>> this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
>> we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
>> after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.
>>
>> my two cents,
>> john
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
>>>  hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and 
>>> listened to it
>>>  at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words 
>>> about it.
>>>
>>>  I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia 
>>> articles, I
>>>  actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be 
>>> great
>>>  outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
>>>  moderating the sites :-)
>>>
>>>  However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be 
>>> indymedia for
>>>  google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont 
>>> really
>>>  like it.
>>>
>>>  Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like 
>>> to
>>>  think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
>>>  respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of 
>>> pandering to
>>>  the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
>>>
>>>  THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are 
>>> alternatives
>>>  to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer 
>>> a
>>>  community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we 
>>> do
>>>  enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will 
>>> and it
>>>  wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the 
>>> interests of
>>>  our communities at heart.
>>>
>>>  Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and 
>>> not try
>>>  to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
>>>  peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can 
>>> do to
>>>  change that.
>>>
>>>  This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and 
>>> reflect the
>>>  indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we 
>>> could talk
>>>  about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger 
>>> events
>>>  that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a 
>>> couple
>>>  of months.
>>>
>>>  bht
>>>
>>>
>>>  > Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for 
>>> open
>>>  > publishing with a
>>>  > different root address that would be enough distance to make 
>>> google happy.
>>  > > us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
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