[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

deva drdartist at riseup.net
Wed Jul 21 18:42:34 CDT 2004


I am in favour of this idea

deva



On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:03 PM, john duda wrote:

> why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
> a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
> template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
> publishing...
>
> like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
> we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
> syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
> up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
> from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
> work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
> with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
> searchable site of all us indymedia features.
>
> this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
> we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
> after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.
>
> my two cents,
> john
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
>> hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and listened 
>> to it
>> at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words 
>> about it.
>>
>> I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia 
>> articles, I
>> actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be 
>> great
>> outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
>> moderating the sites :-)
>>
>> However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be indymedia 
>> for
>> google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont 
>> really
>> like it.
>>
>> Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like to
>> think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
>> respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of pandering 
>> to
>> the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
>>
>> THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are 
>> alternatives
>> to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer a
>> community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we do
>> enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will and 
>> it
>> wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the interests 
>> of
>> our communities at heart.
>>
>> Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and 
>> not try
>> to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
>> peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can do 
>> to
>> change that.
>>
>> This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and reflect 
>> the
>> indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we could 
>> talk
>> about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger events
>> that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a 
>> couple
>> of months.
>>
>> bht
>>
>>
>>> Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for 
>>> open
>>> publishing with a
>>> different root address that would be enough distance to make google 
>>> happy.
>>> us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
>>>
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