[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

john duda john at manifestor.org
Wed Jul 21 23:10:06 CDT 2004


ok, i fixed a bunch of stuff on:

http://usimc.kicks-ass.net/en/

with the basic idea being a syndication site (with featured
sydicated stories)

i also got rid of the somewhat funny but fairly cryptic bowling ball
banner, making the top banner rotate at random.

hopefully this will be in good enough shape by tomorrow or friday that
we can think about launching really soon.....

john



On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:42:34PM -0700, deva wrote:
> I am in favour of this idea
> 
> deva
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:03 PM, john duda wrote:
> 
> >why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
> >a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
> >template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
> >publishing...
> >
> >like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
> >we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
> >syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
> >up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
> >from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
> >work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
> >with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
> >searchable site of all us indymedia features.
> >
> >this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
> >we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
> >after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.
> >
> >my two cents,
> >john
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
> >>hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and listened 
> >>to it
> >>at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words 
> >>about it.
> >>
> >>I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia 
> >>articles, I
> >>actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be 
> >>great
> >>outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
> >>moderating the sites :-)
> >>
> >>However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be indymedia 
> >>for
> >>google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont 
> >>really
> >>like it.
> >>
> >>Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like to
> >>think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
> >>respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of pandering 
> >>to
> >>the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
> >>
> >>THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are 
> >>alternatives
> >>to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer a
> >>community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we do
> >>enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will and 
> >>it
> >>wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the interests 
> >>of
> >>our communities at heart.
> >>
> >>Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and 
> >>not try
> >>to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
> >>peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can do 
> >>to
> >>change that.
> >>
> >>This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and reflect 
> >>the
> >>indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we could 
> >>talk
> >>about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger events
> >>that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a 
> >>couple
> >>of months.
> >>
> >>bht
> >>
> >>
> >>>Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for 
> >>>open
> >>>publishing with a
> >>>different root address that would be enough distance to make google 
> >>>happy.
> >>>us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
> >>>
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