[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

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If i'm reading this approach right, such a system doesn't allow for breaking 
news that local imc's have yet to pick-up. It seems to me that the editorial 
team should also have the ability to put-up important breaking stories that 
can later be supplemented by local coverage.

d.o.





>From: Joshua Breitbart <breitbart at indymedia.org>
>To: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:40:35 -0400
>
>I think an Oceania-style site would work just fine, especially if there was 
>a way to promote an article from the wire to the center column. When I say 
>promote to the center column, I mean with no editorial changes, just that 
>an abstract and photo became visible.
>
>In place of a US editorial team, local editorial teams could occasionally 
>produce compilation features drawing on the work of many IMCs. These could 
>then be promoted to the US center column. This would be a lot easier for a 
>local team to do once there was a US features wire.
>
>So all a US editorial team would do is promote 1-3 features a day to the 
>center column and categorize the wire. (I am opposed to deleting things 
>that are "obviously local" for reasons I can explain separately.)
>
>We lose a little bit of the collaboration that comes from producing 
>features together, but there's no reason local editors couldn't contact 
>editors from other IMCs, or cc the US-features listserv.
>
>
>Josh
>
>
>At 4:03 PM -0700 7/21/04, john duda wrote:
>>why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
>>a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
>>template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
>>publishing...
>>
>>like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
>>we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
>>syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
>>up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
>>from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
>>work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
>>with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
>>searchable site of all us indymedia features.
>>
>>this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
>>we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
>>after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.
>>
>>my two cents,
>>john
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
>>>  hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and listened to 
>>>it
>>>  at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words about 
>>>it.
>>>
>>>  I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia 
>>>articles, I
>>>  actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be 
>>>great
>>>  outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
>>>  moderating the sites :-)
>>>
>>>  However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be indymedia 
>>>for
>>>  google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont really
>>>  like it.
>>>
>>>  Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like to
>>>  think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
>>>  respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of pandering to
>>>  the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
>>>
>>>  THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are 
>>>alternatives
>>>  to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer a
>>>  community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we do
>>>  enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will and 
>>>it
>>>  wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the interests of
>>>  our communities at heart.
>>>
>>>  Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and not 
>>>try
>>>  to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
>>>  peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can do to
>>>  change that.
>>>
>>>  This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and reflect 
>>>the
>>>  indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we could 
>>>talk
>>>  about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger events
>>>  that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a 
>>>couple
>>>  of months.
>>>
>>>  bht
>>>
>>>
>>>  > Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for 
>>>open
>>>  > publishing with a
>>>  > different root address that would be enough distance to make google 
>>>happy.
>>  > > us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
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