[IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)

[Tribal Scribal]

Does this mean we're not addressing the concern i voiced last night about 
the editorial team being able to put up center column features on breaking 
news not covered by any local's?


d.o.



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>From: john duda <john at manifestor.org>
>To: deva <drdartist at riseup.net>
>CC: imc-us at lists.cu.groogroo.com
>Subject: Re: [IMC-US] PROPOSAL (was indymedia and google)
>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:10:06 -0700
>
>ok, i fixed a bunch of stuff on:
>
>http://usimc.kicks-ass.net/en/
>
>with the basic idea being a syndication site (with featured
>sydicated stories)
>
>i also got rid of the somewhat funny but fairly cryptic bowling ball
>banner, making the top banner rotate at random.
>
>hopefully this will be in good enough shape by tomorrow or friday that
>we can think about launching really soon.....
>
>john
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 04:42:34PM -0700, deva wrote:
> > I am in favour of this idea
> >
> > deva
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 21, 2004, at 4:03 PM, john duda wrote:
> >
> > >why don't i go ahead and set up usimc as a very basic syndication site
> > >a la oceania.indymedia(pretty much working now except for some
> > >template bugs)?  in other words, no editorial features and no open
> > >publishing...
> > >
> > >like bht said, editors can remove things that are obviously local, and
> > >we can also use the "startpage special" category in mir to feature
> > >syndicated articles of exceptional relevance.  also, editors can make
> > >up for what the feeds don't provide by grabbing abstracts for features
> > >from local sites that lack a detailed feed.  editors can also do the
> > >work of sorting local features into topics, so that what we wind up
> > >with is an intelligible, comprehensive, categorized, archived, and
> > >searchable site of all us indymedia features.
> > >
> > >this way the site could be up and running as early as *tomorrow*.  and
> > >we can have the discussion about the google/open publishing issues
> > >after the dnc...maybe even after the rnc.
> > >
> > >my two cents,
> > >john
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 03:25:59PM -0700, bht wrote:
> > >>hey all, i have been reading the discussion over google and listened
> > >>to it
> > >>at the allied media conference.  I would like to say a few words
> > >>about it.
> > >>
> > >>I am not against people trying to get google to list indymedia
> > >>articles, I
> > >>actually think it would be great to get them up there, it would be
> > >>great
> > >>outreach and advertisement, and make all of us work a little harder
> > >>moderating the sites :-)
> > >>
> > >>However, this discussion is turning into "how can we not be indymedia
> > >>for
> > >>google yet still be indymedia enough for indymedia"...and i dont
> > >>really
> > >>like it.
> > >>
> > >>Having said that getting google listing is great, I would also like to
> > >>think that sticking to what indymedia is is also important, it this
> > >>respect it is more imnportant to stay indymedia instead of pandering
> > >>to
> > >>the interests of larger entities to get exposure.
> > >>
> > >>THere is a gap of whether we are tactical and whther we are
> > >>alternatives
> > >>to corporate media.  I like to think that we are tactical and offer a
> > >>community support role and should stick to our communities.  If we do
> > >>enough outreach there the people that need to read our sites will and
> > >>it
> > >>wont be cluttered with all these people that dont have the interests
> > >>of
> > >>our communities at heart.
> > >>
> > >>Therefore, I think it would better to stick to being indymedia and
> > >>not try
> > >>to change /enough/ to be accepted by google.  I know that it is some
> > >>peoples heartsong for this and I guess that there isnt much I can do
> > >>to
> > >>change that.
> > >>
> > >>This is the us site that is supposed to represent us imcs and reflect
> > >>the
> > >>indymedia tactic.  So, personally, it would make me happy if we could
> > >>talk
> > >>about how to get indymedia us finished int ime for these larger events
> > >>that are taking place NOW.  Or we can deliberate about this for a
> > >>couple
> > >>of months.
> > >>
> > >>bht
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Maybe if the site directed people to another site set up just for
> > >>>open
> > >>>publishing with a
> > >>>different root address that would be enough distance to make google
> > >>>happy.
> > >>>us.indmedia.org linked to us.openpublishing.org or something.
> > >>>
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