[IMC-US] PROPOSED: Arafat on the verge of death

deva drdartist at riseup.net
Fri Nov 5 15:33:47 CST 2004


this sort of look is nice. it is more attractive in some respects. it 
is also more work and it means all the things on a front page have to 
be written because most indymedia articles do not have a clear concise 
few sentences to summarize the story. In otherwords, it is not really 
possible to promotes stuff with this method

While I like the appearance of sf, it is not much interesting to me the 
mindset where there are AP articles featured on the front page. It is a 
move towards 'legitimacy' and a more 'corporate' appearance and a move 
away from the DIY roots of indymedia. Such a layout precludes putting 
links to dozens of photo articles, multiple stories etc which are the 
hallmark of indymedia style coverage.

cheers
deva



On Nov 5, 2004, at 12:18 PM, max wrote:

> yeah I agree with john: "a set of distinctions beyond
>> start special/breaking news/feature/local wire that tied into a less
>> traditional layout like what sf.indymedia.org is now using."
>
> that would be key in terms of moving indymedia sites away from the 
> blog design
> and towards a news design.  sf.indymedia.org looks really good right 
> now. also
> check out http://michiganimc.org/~max/version6.html - this is what we 
> were
> working on but never implemented. it'd probably be way easier to do in 
> mir than
> dada.
>
> max
>
>
> Quoting john duda <john at manifestor.org>:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 12:02:24PM -0500, Ana Nogueira wrote:
>>> I agree. This is what I propose.
>>>
>>>
>>> longterm:
>>> This might be too radical an idea, but we find space on our page for
>>> "syndicated global features." a narrow column with *just* headlines 
>>> from
>> the
>>> global feature page that link to the global site.
>>>  I think this would help us more clearly define both site's roles. 
>>> Crazy?
>>
>> i think we need to seriously think about how to 1) increase the amount
>> of space on the page (a stretchable banner would help here) and 2) how
>> to display more info at the top of the page for longer periods of
>> time.  maybe if we could come up with a set of distinctions beyond
>> start special/breaking news/feature/local wire that tied into a less
>> traditional layout like what sf.indymedia.org is now using.  or 
>> something.
>>
>> john
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/04 3:26 AM, "bht" <bht at indymedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i am also against having this a feature of us imc.  i think its 
>>>> place on
>>>> us imc would be in the syndicated feature wire should indybay 
>>>> feature it
>>>> on their local page.
>>>>
>>>> this is a global story.  it belongs on the global page, i almost 
>>>> think it
>>>> would be good to highlight somewhere on the site other indy sites 
>>>> like us
>>>> imc.  there is global, of course, and there is also oceania 
>>>> syndication
>>>> site.
>>>>
>>>> also, i am very concerned about the crossposting on indy sites, and 
>>>> i
>>>> especially worry about the relationship that us.indy will have with
>>>> indymedia.org
>>>>
>>>> i dont know how many of you are familiar with the global process and
>> such,
>>>> but global imc working group is a very small group of people that 
>>>> take
>>>> original submissions or compile features themselves and post them as
>>>> features.
>>>>
>>>> i think the actual number of people that actively participate in 
>>>> global
>>>> features right now is 4 or 6.  And quite a few of the people on 
>>>> this list
>>>> and actively doing work on this site are people that used to be 
>>>> involved
>>>> with global features.  So the energy and momentum is switching, as 
>>>> it
>>>> should.
>>>>
>>>> I kind of lost my track of thought, so I am going to stop rambling. 
>>>>  But,
>>>> I think my main point was that we should create a symbiotic 
>>>> relationship
>>>> with other indy sites, especially global.
>>>> bht
>>>>
>>>> ahhh! Chris Anderson
>>>>>> And we don't have to mention the US connection in
>>>>>> every story either.  If we did it would
>>>>>> sound like the RCP having to mention Bob Avakian in
>>>>>> every story, speech, etc.  The
>>>>>> cumulative coverage of the site will make the US
>>>>>> connection clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree with the above statement in general, but am
>>>>> not opposed to this feature specifically. That said, I
>>>>> dont see why we shouldn't mention the impact Arafat's
>>>>> death will have on the US.  There's a way to do it so
>>>>> we dont "sound like bob avakian."
>>>>>
>>>>> chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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