[IMC-US] PROPOSED: promote "PropaGannon scandal rocks White House"

Tribal Scribal valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com
Sun Feb 13 07:09:51 CST 2005 

The piece is now on NYC & the U.S. newswire. I propose we promote it to the 
feature column. The title has been changed to "Thinking about Gannon-gate"

d.o.


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>From: john duda <john at manifestor.org>
>To: Tribal Scribal <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Imc-us-editorial] RE: [IMC-US] more on: PropaGannon scandal 
>rocksWhite House
>Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:06:36 -0700
>
>can we go ahead an post with these additions?
>
>john
>
>On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 01:33:14PM +0000, Tribal Scribal wrote:
> > Excellent! A few minor suggestions (additions in caps):
> >
> > 1)First line: "the rapidly blossoming WHITE HOUSE press scandal"
> >
> >  Second line:
> > Also, let's make the connection to Rove and the rightwing PR machine 
>w/an
> > added question like:
> > "What's his connection to Karl Rove and the rightwing <a
> > href="http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001437.html">PR
> > machine</a>?
> >
> > 2)First line, 2nd graph: "That sounds a little harsher than IT'S MEANT 
>TO.
> >
> > 3)3rd graph: Media Matters isn't a blog. David Brock (interestingly a
> > reformed rightwing hatchet guy) and his coworkers run a kick-ass media
> > activism org. You could just add: "..AND Media Matters"
> >
> > 4)First line,Last graph: Either "we in the alternative media have been
> > gleefully tearing down the walls that separate journalists from ordinary
> > people for years now" or "we at INDYMEDIA have been gleefully tearing 
>down
> > the walls that separate journalists from ordinary people for close to 
>six
> > years now"
> >
> > 5)2nd line, Last graph: "...and doesn't seem to care who is a 
>"journalist"
> > these days as long as this or that person ADHERES TO THE BUSH REGIME'S
> > FAR-RIGHT AGENDA"
> >
> > I like the way you've left it open ended. Hopefully it will spark a lot 
>of
> > productive dialogue & comments. Very cool.
> >
> > Here's a telling pic of Scott McClellan: www.straitstimes.com/.../
> > white_house.jpg
> >
> > d.o.
> >
> >
> > >From: Chris Anderson <chanders_imc at yahoo.com>
> > >To: imc-us at lists.ucimc.org, imc-us at ucimc.org,imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org
> > >CC: rabble at indymedia.org, breitbart at indymedia.org
> > >Subject: [Imc-us-editorial] RE: [IMC-US] more on: PropaGannon scandal
> > >rocksWhite House
> > >Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:02:03 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Here's an UNFINISHED draft of some thoughts on Gannon. I'll certainly 
>add
> > >more to it tomorrow, and when its done it'll be up on the nyc-imc 
>website
> > >for use at imc us if people want it.
> > >
> > >----
> > >
> > >Why <b>shouldn't</b> James Guckert (aka 'Jeff Gannon')have been allowed 
>in
> > >the White House briefing room?
> > ><p>
> > >Multiple questions surround the rapidly blossoming <a
> > >href=http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/02/1710897.php>press 
>scandal</a>:
> > >did Guckert <a href=http://dailykos.com/story/2005/2/10/224122/709>blow
> > >the CIA cover</a> of Valerie Plame? Or <a
> > 
> >href=http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000799182>not</a>?
> > >What's Guckert's connection to the raft of <a
> > 
> >href=http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=47>homosexually-themed</a>
> > >military escort websites registered under his name? What is <a
> > >href=http://www.leadpencil.net/blog/archives/000234.html>'Talon 
>News'</a>?
> > >How does the Guckert case relate to other <a
> > >href=http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/1/11/145618/565>recent</a>
> > >Bush-admnistration propaganda scandals? The real question, though, is 
>far
> > >harder to answer: what does it say about the state of American 
>journalism
> > >when a fraudulent, partisan journalist is unmaked by insurgent, 
>partisan
> > >bloggers?  On what grounds can those of us in the radical media
> > > criticize J.D. Guckert?
> > ><p>
> > >That sounds a little harsher than I probably mean it to. After all, the
> > >bloggers (<a href=http://www.dailykos.com>Daily Kos</a>, <a
> > >href=http"//atrios.blogspot.com>Atrios</a>, <A
> > >href=http://mediamatters.org/>Media Matters</a>) who uncovered this 
>farce
> > >really are heroes. And there are a few big differences between Guckert 
>and
> > >the members of the left-wing blogosphere; for one thing, they don't use
> > >fake names to get access to White House press conferences, and for 
>another
> > >they haven't been under invesitgation for their connection to the Plame
> > >affair.
> > ><p>
> > >But the issue goes deeper than this. After all, we in the alternative
> > >media have been gleefully tearing down the walls that separate 
>journalists
> > >from ordinary people for close to six years now. It seems the Bush
> > >administration is cynically taking our advice, and doesn't seem to care
> > >who is a "journalist" these days as long as this or that person is on
> > >their side. As White House spokesman Scott McClellan <a
> > >href=http://wmass.indymedia.org/otherpress/display/276>said</a> on 
>Friday,
> > >"in this day and age, when you have a changing media, it's not an easy
> > >issue to decide or try to pick and choose who is a journalist."  Of
> > >course, as long as they spin your lies and shill for your domestic
> > >programs its easy to look the other way.<
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Tribal Scribal <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >just checking in for a minute. i'll take a stab at "tying it all 
>together"
> > >in the AM if no one does a workup before then, but we need more indy 
>links.
> > >i was hoping dc would have something up, but no dice. you guys in nyc 
>have
> > >today's interview between "gannon" and E&P here:
> > >http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/141366/index.php which helps, 
>but
> > >we have no original indy material (commentary anyone?).
> > >
> > >i think "what can indymedia add that everyone else cant?" is to get 
>into
> > >the
> > >nuances of what constitutes journalism. This will be dicey. As we all 
>know,
> > >indy's been slammed for not being "real journalists" too. This is where 
>i
> > >need to hear from you guys. Talon is an obvious PR front for far-right
> > >operatives. It's lies and disinforms. Indy is democratic grassroots,
> > >advocacy journalism. I would hope that we all strive to seek the truth, 
>but
> > >it's open publishing and that leaves us open to disinfo as well. How do 
>we
> > >make the distictions here? How do we make the case that indy should be 
>in
> > >the room and talon shouldn't? OR do we just blow this part of the story 
>off
> > >and hope that it doesn't come back & bite us in the ass?
> > >
> > >Also, we need to keep the focus on the Bush regime's MASSIVE public
> > >relations scam and manipulation of the corporate media. The White House 
>is
> > >going to pull out all the stops to move the focus over to the need to
> > >improve security ("how'd this guy get into the WH so easy" blaa, blaa).
> > >They
> > >may even find some McClellan underling to fall on his sword. The 
>corporado
> > >media will probably follow suit (even though they've been publicly
> > >shafted).
> > >
> > >Your thoughts?
> > >
> > >d.o.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >***************************************
> > >"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as
> > >necessary in the political world as storms in the physical world."
> > >
> > >- Thomas Jefferson
> > >***************************************
> > >more rebellion here:
> > >http://concertobi.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >***************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Chris Anderson
> > >>Reply-To: "Working Group for IMC-US."
> > >>To: "Working Group for IMC-US." ,imc-us at ucimc.org,
> > >>imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org
> > >>CC: rabble at indymedia.org, breitbart at indymedia.org
> > >>Subject: [IMC-US] more on: PropaGannon scandal rocks White House
> > >>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:45:55 -0800 (PST)
> > >>
> > >>-There are really four (or five) stories going on
> > >>here. I figured the next step would be to break them
> > >>down one by one:
> > >>
> > >>1. The story of how what bascially ammounted to a
> > >>right-wing blogger got prime access to White House
> > >>press briefings on a Daily basis where he asked
> > >>partisan and misleading questions
> > >>
> > >>2. His connection to the Valerie Plame affair.
> > >>
> > >>3. The way he is tied into larger bush media
> > >>manipulation's, including Bush's staged "pre-war"
> > >>press conference, the fact that Bush paid various
> > >>conservative columnists to promote his programs, and
> > >>the fact that Bish admin sent out fake tv-news release
> > >>to promte social programs.
> > >>
> > >>4. Gannon's domain name ownership of vaious
> > >>gay-escort military sites
> > >>
> > >>5. the larger meta question about blogs, the media,
> > >>indymedia, etc.
> > >>
> > >>here are some more links (more mainstream):
> > >>
> > >>Howard Kurtz on the affair
> > >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/columns/kurtzhoward/
> > >>and buzzflash on kurtz
> > >>http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/05/02/edi05028.html
> > >>editor and publisher runs 3 stories, including an
> > >>interview with gannon where he basically denies the
> > >>whole thing
> > >>
> > 
> >>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000799182
> > >>
> > 
> >>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000798573
> > >>
> > 
> >>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000798395
> > >>
> > >>interesting, the lefty bloggers are now totally
> > >>playing down the whole sex thing: the major wrap up
> > >>press release by
> > >>daily kos doesn't even mention it:
> > >>
> > 
> >>http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000798395
> > >>
> > >>because the fact that they probed the guy's personal
> > >>life if being used, in the height of hypocricy, but
> > >>the right wing bloggers to attack the lefties
> > >>
> > >>what else to folks think? anyone want to tie this all
> > >>together? and the key question is still: what can
> > >>indymedia add that everyone else cant?
> > >>
> > >>chris
> > >>
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