[IMC-US] Re[3]: [Imc-us-editorial] Shall we break the story?

[Nancy Shia]

FYI:  Lytel is not very reliable.

His phone numbers are 202-253-1330 and 202-966-0040.

His paid assistant at redefeat bush is Bruce, and his phone number is
703-527-5386.  Bruce is a pretty straight up guy, and I would trust him.

Please do not disclose where lytel's phone numbers came from.  You may get
no information if you do.

Nancy
DC IMC

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:imc-us-bounces at lists.ucimc.org]On Behalf Of Mike R
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:26 PM
To: Tribal Scribal
Cc: imc-us at ucimc.org; imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org
Subject: [IMC-US] Re[3]: [Imc-us-editorial] Shall we break the story?


Hi Tribal,

I sent an email.  we don't need his reply, but if we get it, that's
news.  We could state that "David Lytel could not be reached for
comment" or "did not reply to requests for confirmation".

if the source ain't reliable, then calling her/him so ain't viable.
Just say "according to a source".

hth,
Mike

ps- this is good news

Tuesday, January 04, 2005, 6:22:15 PM, Tribal said:

TS> I won't "stick to reliable" 'cuz i don't know the guy. If you don't like
TS> viable give me yet another.

TS> Here's the bio on Lytel from their sit:
TS> "David Lytel founded the committee. He served in the White House Office
of
TS> Science and Technology Policy in the first Clinton Administration and
was a
TS> co-founder of Democrats.com."

TS> no phone #, only email. i'll try that BUT who wants to wait for the guy
to
TS> answer his email??

TS> d.o.



TS> ***************************************
TS> "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as
TS> necessary in the political world as storms in the physical world."

TS> - Thomas Jefferson
TS> ***************************************
TS> more rebellion here:
TS> http://concertobi.blogspot.com/

TS> ***************************************




>>From: Mike <micro.zen at verizon.net>
>>To: "Tribal Scribal" <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com>,<imc-us at ucimc.org>,
>>Subject: Re: Re: [Imc-us-editorial] Shall we break the story?
>>Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:30:54 -0500
>>
>>Also, does anyone know how to contact Lytel for confirmation?
>>
>>-mike
>>Philly IMC
>>
>> >
>> > From: Mike <micro.zen at verizon.net>
>> > Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 05:17:28 EST
>> > To: "Tribal Scribal" <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com>,  <imc-us at ucimc.org>,
>> >     <imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Imc-us-editorial] Shall we break the story?
>> >
>> > Her announcement was alleged at a public rally, so we are not breaking
>>confidentialities.  The story below is clear its sources & disclaimers. So
>>I say we break the story.
>> >
>> > Also, viable isn't the right word. Stick to 'reliable'
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: "Tribal Scribal" <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com>
>> > > Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 05:01:12 EST
>> > > To: imc-us at ucimc.org,  imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org
>> > > Subject: [Imc-us-editorial] Shall we break the story?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I've just cobbled together a piece for our WMass newswire (which may
>>be
>> > > moved over to the feature column, but since our system's funky we
have
>>to
>> > > process via email) and am wondering what folks think about breaking
>>this
>> > > story on our US site?  The guy Scott is a friend of a friend and said
>>to be
>> > > reliable and the guy from ReDefeatBush.com IS saying on their website
>>that
>> > > some highprofile pol is about to announce ("We expect big news
>>tomorrow
>> > > about the challenge and who supports it. Expect a major story to
break
>>in
>> > > the morning and for it to have hit California by mid-afternoon")
>> > >
>> > > Read the piece and tell me what you guys think. I think it's beyond
>>the
>> > > rumor stage given that this guy David Lytel apparently already made
>>the
>> > > announcement in Boston. On the other hand, suppose it backfires on
>>him? Will
>> > > we have egg on our collective face?
>> > >
>> > > d.o.
>> > >
>> > > *******
>> > >
>> > > http://wmass.indymedia.org/newswire/display/4166/index.php
>> > >
>> > > Speaker at Fauniel Hall vote fraud rally claims Boxer will protest
>>2004
>> > > election
>> > >
>> > > by d.o.
>> > >
>> > > 04 Jan 2005
>> > > A viable source who attended last nights vote fraud rally in Boston
>>reports
>> > > that ReDefeatBush.com fouder announced that Sen. Boxer will "protest
>>the
>> > > vote".
>> > >
>> > > "I just got back from the rally in Boston at Faneuil Hall. There were
>>about
>> > > 400 people there and many fine speakers. Perhaps the most exciting
>>news is
>> > > that David Lytel, the founder of ReDefeatBush, said that senator
>>Barbara
>> > > Boxer said she WILL step up to protest the vote. This of course
>>elicited a
>> > > lot of cheering. You can report that I (and about 400 others) saw and
>>heard
>> > > David Lytel say this loud and clear. Whether it will actually happen
>>remains
>> > > to be seen, but he certainly seemed to believe it close to 100%.
>> > >
>> > > Other exciting news is that Jonathan Simon, who has been in front of
>>efforts
>> > > to analize and publicize exit poll data, has said that a very telling
>> > > analysis of the exit poll data conducted by Steven Freeman will be
>>released
>> > > tommorrow (probably - they are working under great pressure to finish
>>it
>> > > ASAP) and that it will be provided to congressmen."
>> > >
>> > > (signed by Scott)
>> > >
>> > > Here is the post-rally report from ReDefeatBush (note no specific
>>mention of
>> > > Boxer, but also the teaser in paragraph 3):
>> > >
>> > > Mr. Adams is With Us
>> > >
>> > > Boston 1/3/04 12:14PM "Patriotism is not enough," wrote Audous
Huxley,
>>"but
>> > > neither is anything else. Science is not enough, religion is not
>>enough, art
>> > > is not enough, politics and economics are not enough, nor is love,
nor
>>is
>> > > duty, nor is action however disinterested, nor, however sublime, is
>> > > contemplation. Nothing short of everything will really do." I had the
>> > > tremendously exhilerating feeling tonight in Fanueil Hall in Boston
>>that we
>> > > had before us the right measure of everything: skill, timing, luck
and
>> > > confidence. To Bostonians Fanueil Hall is a curious old building in
>>the
>> > > midst of Quincy Market, a place where the marketplace of stuff
>>displaced the
>> > > marketplace of ideas long ago. It is simply impossible not to be
moved
>>by
>> > > the statues of the great orators who have spoken in this hall, from
>>Adams to
>> > > Frederick Douglas. A man can be free at Fanueil Hall, and stand and
>>speak in
>> > > a clear voice.
>> > >
>> > > Tonight what was once the cradle of liberty -- where John Adams
>>renounced
>> > > his British citizenship and became an American -- was packed with
>>people
>> > > shouting "count every vote" as the speakers made a clear and
>>compelling case
>> > > that George W. Bush did not win a legitimate election on 11/2.
>> > >
>> > > We expect big news tomorrow about the challenge and who supports it.
>>Expect
>> > > a major story to break in the morning and for it to have hit
>>California by
>> > > mid-afternoon.
>> > > Our first quarter page ad in the Washington Post will run. If we can
>>gain
>> > > support in the Senate here is our analysis of how things could go if
>>this
>> > > is, indeed, the great unravelling we all hope it can be.
>> > >
>> > > Visit our briefing page to see some of what will be used in the
>> > > Constitutional Challenge and join us for our online discussion of
>> > > Constitutional interpretation, legislative strategies and
>>parliamentary
>> > > tactics.
>> > >
>> > > Tonight in Boston we showed Linda Byrket film "Video the Vote" which
>>we have
>> > > on BetaSP tape for the news media. On Thursday we need you with us in
>> > > Washington. We are now expecting Rev. Bill Moss, Rev. Jesse Jackson,
>>David
>> > > Cobb, Granny D, and musical guests the Swing States Road Show, Yikes
>>McGee,
>> > > and Jack Chernos and his Department of Justice. There will be stuff
>> > > happening from 10 to noon -- including, if I can trust my e-mail, a
>> > > spontaneously organized Sons and Daughters of Liberty Fife and Drum
>>Corps
>> > > that will be all drums, no fifes -- we moved the start time to noon
>>because
>> > > the actual joint session of Congress begins at 1:00. Since it may be
a
>>cold
>> > > day and since we are not sure how long our outdoor vigil will last,
we
>>want
>> > > to do whatever we can to ensure that there will still be a crowd with
>>us at
>> > > the end of the afternoon to welcome and thank the brave Members of
>>Congress
>> > > who carry forward our challenge. If you want to tune in we will be
>>live on
>> > > RadioLeft.com.
>> > >
>> > > And if you are still not convinced to give us your financial support
>>read
>> > > this list of 30 things we have done for you since election day. If
you
>>want
>> > > us keep doing more of what we're doing, please contribute to pay for
>>the
>> > > lawyers and stages and everything else.
>> >
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