[IMC-US] What's the Matter with Indymedia?
onto
onto at riseup.net
Thu Jul 28 14:44:50 CDT 2005
thanks ryan! I love hearing about local geographies of different regions.
Aztlan for the Southwest is a good idea, although noone's really sure
where Aztlan really is. It's more of an idea than a place. It might be
too narrow to lock it down to a single area.
anti-cartography,
onto
Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> Here's the problem specifically with the Tennessee IMC:
> If you ask someone in Knoxville, TN which region they belong in, they'll
> say Appalachia (actually they'll say Katuah). If you ask someone in
> Nashville, TN which region they belong to, they'll say Southeast
> (actually they'll say Dirty South, but that's not exactly a bioregion).
> If you ask someone in Memphis, TN which region they belong to, they'll
> say Mississippi Delta (actually they'll say Mississippi River since the
> Delta usually refers to Louisiana). No one west of Knoxville would ever
> admit to living in Appalachia, as it's often used as a derogatory term
> by people elsewhere in the state, i.e. if you call someone Appalachian,
> you're basically calling them a hick. Not sure how to fix that one :)
> -ryan
>
> On Jul 28, 2005, at 12:30 PM, bht wrote:
>
>> Hey Ryan, all.
>>
>> portland indymedia is a tool to serve the folks in southern cascadia.
>> it sucks that folks outside of cascadia are having trouble using the
>> cities list, but i guess thats why you have your own sites, and cities
>> lists :-)
>>
>> the criticisms and praise are quite welsome, and the cities list is
>> being constantly worked on. the announcement feature for it is here:
>> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310808.shtml (always at the
>> bottom of the cities list)
>>
>> i am pretty sure this list was contacted when the cities list was
>> first being arranged, asking folks from various imc's what bioregion
>> they felt they belonged to. it would be great if anyone who curnetly
>> feels misplaced on the cities list to offer a different placing (even
>> a whole new subheading, if thats what it takes) with some kind of
>> web-based back-up so that folks who are confused can figure out the
>> reasoning behind the placements.
>>
>> As for appalachia, which has been called into question twice now (by
>> john and ryan...baltimore and tennessee imc) i used this reference
>> from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachia
>>
>> Which clearly states that some counties of tennessee and maryland were
>> considered appalachia. however, since i am not from there, it is open
>> to change as long as you can offer some kind of background for why you
>> want it categorized somehwere else or want to create a new subheading.
>> Some things on the forefront i think are Azatlan for southwest and
>> mexico imc's, and redoing what is currently Mississippi Delta, since
>> that one is pretty obvioulsy not the best it could be.
>>
>> bht
>>
>> Ryan Kaldari wrote:
>>
>>> I do agree with her assessment that Portland's "Turtle Island" IMC
>>> list is less than helpful. For example, the first two places I looked
>>> for the Tennessee IMC on the list were "Southeast" and "Mississippi
>>> Delta", but I finally found it in "Appalachia". How anyone from
>>> outside the US would know where to look is beyond me.
>>> Ryan Kaldari
>>>
>>
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