[IMC-US] all-volunteer survey questions draft

[faith swords]

i agree with bht.

faith
UCIMC

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, bht wrote:

> so i am starting to feel like this money situation is quite a big 
> distraction.  i definately agree with the houston folks that paying people 
> isnt the best thing and portland.indy is an all-volunteer effort, we have 
> used that wording for quite some time.  however, in this 'network' there is 
> afforded to individual imc's a personal autonomy for them to make such 
> decisions based on what they feel is best.
>
> i would like to leave it at that, i feel that the insistence of folks from 
> houston to continue bringing this up negates part of their statement that 
> says they dont expect other folks to agree with them.  it feel like some of 
> you really want to make this an issue.  the truth is that some imc's pay 
> people and that is working for them.  it doesnt work for everyone.
>
> i like the personal autonomy.  i feel that it is part of a strong collective. 
> in houston or portland paying people isnt something that is seen as 
> beneficail or even thought of as an option.  in nyc and urbana champaign 
> things are different, the direction of those collectives have moved to a 
> different sphere and it works for them and their projects to pay some folks. 
> both of those imc's do good work.  houston and portland also do good work.
>
> if we try to create a situation where every imc is expected to be the same in 
> the way that they promote/create/empower independant media we come closer to 
> a hierarchy and power body.  i dont claim to know anything about nyc or uc 
> and thats, but i trust that the folks that work with those colelctives do 
> understand and would be right enough in their thinking to address a problem 
> with paying people should it arise.
>
> i would like to accept that houston has made this proposal.  i think it is 
> great.  i think it has made its point.  at a face to face meeting in austin, 
> the room was obviously divided.  perhaps we can work on some infrastructure 
> for us-imc and create more of an understanding and symbiotic relationship 
> with each other.  lets find the common points that we adhere to and then 
> propagate them work together, make media and take down our oppressors. 
> it is so easy to create conflict within our small communities, and so hard to 
> face the reality that we are fighting a real enemy and that we know who that 
> enemy is.  i would really love it if we could shift our focus from internally 
> disputing and talking/writing emails to real action in our communities and 
> have THAT reflecting on this common tool us-imc. I would love it if all we 
> talked about were our successes and from that good feeling we found ways to 
> interact and understand each other as unique humans and collectives.
> bht
> portland imc volunteer
>
>
> dnice wrote:
>
>> Perhaps another useful question would be something along the lines of.
>> 
>> Do you believe that specific checks on the corruptive influences of monies 
>> makes payment of IMC volunteers an acceptable option?
>> 
>> ex.
>> term limits on paid positions
>> only specific positions can be paid
>> money made is on a commission basis.
>> salary caps
>> weekly time limits.
>> 
>> A question along these lines i think will garner a response that may be 
>> useful in helping to understand if folks are totally against paid 
>> volunteers or if they believe a system of restrictions would make the 
>> proposition more palatable.
>> 
>> danscott
>> nyc imc
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2005, at 12:02 AM, nick wrote:
>> 
>>> for IMCs in our hemisphere - any feedback before I translate and send it?
>>> Peace,
>>> Nick
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> For each of these, do you and / or your local imc agree or disagree?
>>> 
>>> 1) Our imc is currently all volunteer.
>>> 
>>> 2) Our imc intends to remain all volunteer in the future.
>>> 
>>> 3) The Principles of Unity should have included a statement against
>>> the payment of money to imc members for doing imc work.
>>> 
>>> 4) The question of having paid members is best left to each imc to
>>> decide, instead of imposing authoritarian rules now, after some imcs
>>> have already created paid positions.
>>> 
>>> 5) It would be a good step if some imcs publicly announce themselves
>>> as all-volunteer.
>>> 
>>> 6) This is not such an important question and not worth spending much
>>> time or effort on.
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