[IMC-US] using other feeds/other independent media on imc-us

[Aaron Couch]

i think using feeds from other independent media sites is a great idea.

-A

On 5/13/05, Tribal Scribal <valeoftheoaks at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hey sheri,
> 
> glad you brought the subject up. as you know it's come up now & then over
> the years. not sure if the term "separatism" applies however, though we
> (here at u.s. and perhaps still at global) do try to use indy links to
> issues when ever possible. often those local links will actually be 
> reposts
> from other sites or "other press" links from same. one of the reasons for
> this, if i recall right, is to hopefully prevent readers from wandering 
> off
> into the great land of info glut, perhaps never to return! ;)
> 
> this brings up one of my pet peeves: other independent media operations 
> that
> avoid mentioning or linking to OUR operation. you guys can fill in the
> blanks, i'm sure more than a few come to mind, some of them quite 
> prominant,
> some we often link too! i guess the message here is "the door swings both
> ways" or solidarity is more than a concept. by noting this however, i'm 
> not
> saying we should behave in the same lame manner, only that some other
> outfits need to stop being so fucking competitive and self-serving.
> 
> in any case, in my editing and commentary if i can't find some aspect of 
> an
> issue comprehensively covered on any of our sites i look elsewhere. of
> course, we all avoid commercial sites, overly dogmatic rant fests and
> tin-foil hat stuff.
> 
> this subject also brings to mind the same dynamic being played out in the
> blogoshpere. seldom do i find a link to Indy on the higher profile blogs, 
> or
> ANY blogs except our own. with all the cred being lent to bloggers, not 
> only
> among independent media outfits, but also in the mainstream media, folks
> would do well to remember that indymedia was one of the first accesible
> formats for bloggers, sort of THE proto-blog. Granted, trolls and spammers
> use indy as a sort of personal blog and it's a pain in the ass, but it 
> just
> seems that indy seldom gets credit out there for the pioneer work we've
> done.
> 
> ok, ok, i'll stop now. this is bringing out my demons ;) (back, back, damn
> demons...)
> 
> d.o.
> 
> i'd like to take you up on your offer "to elaborate" on this 'cuz this
> discussion could surely bear some fruit.
> 
> d.o.
> 
> ***************************************
> "I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as
> necessary in the political world as storms in the physical world."
> 
> - Thomas Jefferson
> ***************************************
> more rebellion here:
> http://concertobi.blogspot.com/
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> 
> >From: "sheri at speakeasy.org" <sheri at speakeasy.net>
> >Reply-To: "Working Group for IMC-US." <imc-us at lists.ucimc.org>
> >To: imc-us-editorial at ucimc.org
> >CC: imc-us at ucimc.org
> >Subject: [IMC-US] using other feeds/other independent media on imc-us
> >Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 18:56:24 +0000
> >
> >hi,
> >
> >see below for the selves/others digest i just got - it inspired me to 
> send
> >it here cause i think it would be cool to include it somehow in our site.
> >a place for the work of allies and other good independent media.
> >
> >perhaps we can create a place/space for highlighting the good work of 
> other
> >independent media (i mean we are in a larger network) and this would be 
> one
> >way of (1) supporting the work of our allies (2) highlighting important
> >stories that we're not covering (3) broadening the network and (4) i'm 
> sure
> >other good reasons.
> >
> >i believe it comes down to what is the vision for the site and what we
> >consider our role to be. i think indymedia tends toward a kind of
> >separatism that i think can be harmful to the movement and to our work. 
> if
> >you don't know what i mean, i'm happy to elaborate but i'll just leave it
> >at that for the moment. i'm just being honest and having reflected on our
> >evolution over the past 5 years, and trying to be an observer and not 
> just
> >an insider intimately engaged, i think that what i'm saying is NOT bogus 
> or
> >false. and maybe sometimes separatism is necesary and a good thing, but
> >how we collaborate with others who are in the "ever expanding field of
> >independent media" is i believe somehow a key to changing how people 
> think
> >and that is how social change really happens.
> >
> >i'm just hoping for some healthy dialogue about the idea :))
> >
> >love
> >sheri
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: SaO's Daily Digest [mailto:newsletter at selvesandothers.org]
> >Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 06:11 PM
> >To: '', ''
> >Subject: SaO -- May 9-13, 2005
> >
> >===========================================
> >
> >Selves and Others
> >http://www.selvesandothers.org
> >
> >===========================================
> >
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Friday, May 13th, 2005
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >London Review of Books
> >DIARY FROM MOSUL: "THEY DESTROYED EVERYTHING"
> > Patrick Cockburn reports from a divided Iraq
> >by Patrick Cockburn
> >
> >"The sectarian geography of this no man's land between Arabs and Kurds is
> >intricate. Kurdish control peters out in the west and south of the
> >province.
> >Around the town of Hawaijah, a notorious Baathist stronghold to the west,
> >the
> >farmers working in the fields are Arabs. When the US tried to sack Baath
> >Party members here after the invasion, the local hospital almost closed
> >down:
> >all its doctors were members. The headmaster of a secondary school was
> >fired
> >for being a Baathist. His pupils offered to burn down the school in
> >retaliation but he persuaded them not to. The new headmaster, sent from
> >Kirkuk, was too frightened to take up his post. The situation is even 
> more
> >unstable in Mosul, a city of 1.75 million people on the Tigris. Some 70 
> per
> >cent of its population are Arabs, mostly living on the west bank of the
> >river; the rest are Kurds, who live mostly on the east bank. It's a
> >traditional centre of Arab nationalism and religious fundamentalism. 
> Saadi
> >Pira, until recently the leader in Mosul of the Patriotic Union of
> >Kurdistan,
> >claims that 'Mosul was always the true centre of the resistance to the
> >Americans, much more than Fallujah.' The Kurds in Mosul don't even bother
> >to
> >pretend that it is anything other than extremely dangerous."
> >
> >-> http://www.lrb.co.uk/v27/n10/cock01_.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >MediaChannel
> >THE MEDIA CARTEL
> >
> >by Ben H. Bagdikian
> >
> >The half-dozen media conglomerates on which the majority of Americans
> >depend
> >or their news, views and entertainment, behave more like a cartel than
> >independent competitors, says media critic Ben Bagdikian.
> >
> >-> http://www.mediachannel.org/reform/indy117.php
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >Progreso Weekly
> >LESSONS FROM VIETNAM: WARS KILL EMPIRES AS WELL AS PEOPLE
> >
> >by Saul Landau
> >
> > In 2005, the United States has become Communist Vietnam's single-largest
> >trading partner. Vietnam's products permeate U.S. stores. But the 
> "Vietnam
> >War trauma" remains central to U.S. politics. Note how the Vietnam 
> service
> >record of presidential candidates became a contentious issue in the 2004
> >elections. People don't overcome traumas unless they understand them.
> >
> >Since public education provides citizens with minimal context, we rely on
> >mass media to reach into its collective attic and drag out "Fall of 
> Saigon"
> >stories. However, when the commercial press pushes the anniversary method
> >of
> >history teaching, the public tends to divorce rather than engage with its
> >past connections.
> >
> >Personal anecdotes overwhelm analysis. (...)
> >
> >->
> >
> http://www.progresoweekly.com/index.php?progreso=Landau&otherweek=1115960400
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >TomDispatch
> >THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR ISSUE IN A GLOBAL CONTEXT
> >
> >by Dilip Hiro
> >
> >With the Iranians threatening to resume some nuclear activities in the 
> near
> >future, their European Union (EU) interlocutors are threatening to break
> >off
> >their six-month long negotiations to resolve the nuclear issue
> >diplomatically. They have called an emergency meeting of the 35 member
> >Board
> >of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna 
> at
> >which they are likely to join the United States in recommending that the
> >Iranian situation be referred to the United Nations Security Council. 
> (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=2452
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >The Independent
> >TARUN TEJPAL: SECRETS AND SENSATIONS
> >
> >by Priyanka Gill
> >
> > As a fearless online sleuth, he shook the Delhi government. Now Tarun
> >Tejpal, India's journalist hero, has turned from fact to fiction. 
> Priyanka
> >Gill meets him
> >
> >"This is my greatest achievement," says Tarun Tejpal, gesturing towards a
> >copy of The Alchemy of Desire, his first novel, that lies on his office
> >table
> >in New Delhi - "personally, that is." This is exactly what one expects 
> from
> >a
> >debut author, but coming from Tejpal it is a bit of a surprise. Tall,
> >long-haired and full of restless energy, the 42-year-old is, arguably,
> >India's best known journalist. As editor-in-chief of the online
> >newsmagazine
> >Tehelka.com <http://Tehelka.com>, in 2001 he broke a story on national 
> television exposing the
> >high-level corruption that was the ugly, corrupt underbelly of defence
> >purchases in the country. Hailed as the Indian equivalent of the 
> Watergate
> >scandal, the sting was India's biggest news story since independence. As
> >journalistic achievements go, not much comes close. (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.selvesandothers.org/article9548.html
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Thursday, May 12th, 2005
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >In These Times
> > DEMOCRACY'S DEATH
> > Haitian dissidents find themselves the targets of massive repression
> >by Ben Terrall
> >
> >In sync with its grandiose claims about building democracy in the Middle
> >East, the Bush administration is promoting new elections in Haiti in
> >October
> >and November as the great hope for the poorest nation in the Western
> >Hemisphere. Yet, while Washington provides diplomatic, political and
> >military
> >support for the Haitian government of Interim Prime Minister Gerard
> >Latortue,
> >hooded police and death squads are systematically repressing political
> >supporters of former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2094/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >The Nation
> >TORTURE'S DIRTY SECRET: IT WORKS
> >
> >by Naomi Klein
> >
> > I recently caught a glimpse of the effects of torture in action at an
> >event
> >honoring Maher Arar. The Syrian-born Canadian is the world's most famous
> >victim of "rendition," the process by which US officials outsource 
> torture
> >to
> >foreign countries. Arar was switching planes in New York when US
> >interrogators detained him and "rendered" him to Syria, where he was held
> >for
> >ten months in a cell slightly larger than a grave and taken out
> >periodically
> >for beatings. (...)
> >
> >[from the May 30, 2005 issue]
> >
> >-> http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050530&s=klein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >New Statesman
> >LET'S FACE IT - THE STATE HAS LOST ITS MIND
> >
> >by John Pilger
> >
> > The media coverage of this past election was a pastiche. Our right to
> >know
> >what our rulers are doing to people the world over is being lost in the 
> new
> >propaganda consensus.
> >
> >In 1987, the sociologist Alex Carey, a second Orwell in his prophesies,
> >wrote
> >"Managing Public Opinion: the corporate offensive". He described how in 
> the
> >United States "great progress [had been] made towards the ideal of a
> >propaganda-managed democracy", whose principal aim was to identify a
> >rapacious business state "with every cherished human value". The power 
> and
> >meaning of true democracy, of the franchise itself, would be 
> "transferred"
> >to
> >the propaganda of advertising, public relations and corporate-run news.
> >This
> >"model of ideological control", he predicted, would be adopted by other
> >countries, such as Britain. (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.newstatesman.co.uk/nscoverstory.htm
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Wednesday, May 11th, 2005
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >Global Resistance Network
> >AGAINST THE WAR MACHINE
> >Military Recruiters Face Youth and Student Resistance
> >by Ian Thompson
> >
> >Student activism to keep young people out of the U.S. military serves the
> >worthy goals of diminishing military numbers and building resistance to 
> its
> >hegemonic aims. Those who do not enlist in the military because of these
> >efforts should join the ranks of the people's movement against 
> imperialist
> >war, racism and bigotry.
> >
> >-> http://www.globalresistancenetwork.com/IT_AgainstTheWarMachine.html
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Tuesday, May 10th, 2005
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >Inter Press Service
> > FORMER PM'S HUNGER STRIKE HIGHLIGHTS SENSE OF CHAOS
> >
> >by Jim Lobe
> >
> > WASHINGTON, May 10 (IPS) - A three-week hunger strike that now threatens
> >the
> >life of Haiti's jailed former prime minister, Yvon Neptune, is drawing
> >international attention to the increasingly chaotic situation in the
> >Americas' poorest nation.
> >
> >Neptune, who served as prime minister under exiled President 
> Jean-Bertrand
> >Aristide, began taking liquids at the request of his closest friends and
> >family last weekend but remains in an extremely weak condition, according
> >to
> >reports from Port-au-Prince, where he has been held in a government house
> >since March.
> >
> >Neptune has not seen a judge since shortly after his arrest last June on
> >charges that he masterminded a mass killing in St. Marc in February 2004.
> >The
> >government, which has failed to disclose evidence against him, last week
> >offered to drop all charges on condition that he fly to the Dominican
> >Republic. But he turned it down, declaring that the move was an
> >ill-disguised
> >effort to exile him from Haiti permanently. (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=28612
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >Inter Press Service
> >INDEPENDENT ACCESS TO KHUZESTAN URGED IN WAKE OF VIOLENCE
> >
> >by Jim Lobe
> >
> > WASHINGTON, May 10 (IPS) - Amid rising tension between Iran and the
> >United
> >States, a major U.S. human rights group said Tuesday that at least 50
> >people
> >were killed during week-long protests in southwestern Khuzestan province
> >last
> >month and urged Iran to permit independent journalists and rights 
> monitors
> >to
> >go to the strife-torn region across the border from Iraq.
> >
> >New York-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) also called for the immediate
> >release
> >of Yusuf Azizi Banitaraf, an Iranian journalist of Arab descent who was
> >arrested in Teheran Apr. 25 during a press conference to call attention 
> to
> >government abuses in Khuzestan by the independent Centre for the Defence 
> of
> >Human Rights.
> >
> >"The Iranian authorities have again displayed their readiness to silence
> >those who denounce human rights violations," said Joe Stork, Washington
> >director of HRW's Middle East division. "We have serious allegations the
> >government used excessive lethal force, arbitrary arrests, and torture in
> >Khuzestan." (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=28625
> >
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Monday, May 9th, 2005
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >Covert Action Quarterly
> >THE SUPREME COURT AND "ENEMY COMBATANTS"
> >
> >by Marc Norton
> >
> > This is an updated article and expanded version of The Felonious Five
> >Ride
> >Again: The Supreme Court and Enemy Combatants, CounterPunch, July 6, 
> 2004.
> >
> >Both the corporate media and the pundits of the left claim to see a 
> "major
> >victory" for the "rule of law" in the June 28, 2004 Supreme Court rulings
> >on
> >Guant�namo and "enemy combatants."
> >
> >But the fundamental aspect of these decisions is that they have enshrined
> >the
> >concept of enemy combatants into our legal system.
> >
> > >From now on, anybody deemed an enemy combatant -- citizen and 
> non-citizen
> >alike -- can be imprisoned and stripped of their constitutional "due
> >process"
> >rights, including the presumption of innocence and the right to a jury
> >trial.
> >Indefinite detention remains an option. The military will be running the
> >show, not the courts.
> >
> >A few more victories like this, and we will all be eating prison gruel...
> >
> >[Spring 2005, #78]
> >
> >-> http://www.marcnorton.us/13001/51314.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >UT Watch
> >INTERVIEW WITH THE AUTHOR OF UNIVERSITY INC.
> >
> >by Nick Schwellenbach
> >
> > March 2005
> >
> >Interview of Jennifer Washburn, author of the book, University Inc: The
> >Corporate Corruption of Higher Education and New America Foundation 
> fellow,
> >by Nick Schwellenbach. Schwellenbach is a former member of the university
> >watchdog group, University of Texas Watch (www.utwatch.org<http://www.utwatch.org>), 
> and currently
> >an
> >investigator at the Project On Government Oversight (www.pogo.org<http://www.pogo.org>
> ).
> >
> >Can you tell us a little about your background?
> >
> >I've been a freelance journalist since 1995. Some years ago I received a
> >grant from the Open Society Institute to research the growing 
> privatization
> >of various different areas of public life. So I wound up looking at 
> various
> >government services that were being contracted out to private companies.
> >And
> >then I stumbled upon an article about what was happening in the
> >universities
> >with the Bayh-Dole Act and intellectual property. Having gone to a 
> smaller
> >liberal arts college, I was astonished at the degree which universities
> >themselves were engaging in commercial activities that I had no idea that
> >they were involved in. That grew into a cover story for the Atlantic
> >Monthly
> >in March 2000 called "The Kept University." (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.utwatch.org/archives/jwashburn_interview.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >The Independent
> >THE TRIUMPH OF UNCLE TOMS (AND WORSE)
> >To have the son of an African and a Ugandan Asian reiterate this obscene
> >prejudice made me suicidal
> >by Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
> >
> > [...] The bigger politics is what concerns us activists much more than
> >the
> >race and/or gender profile of an MP. And so to the Tories. The election
> >ushers in the first "black" Tory MP, Adam Afriye (half Ghanaian and half
> >English) and Shailash Vara, the Ugandan Asian who has done time as deputy
> >chairman for a party which has always repudiated equality and diversity
> >policies and produced a string of racist politicians, including Winston
> >Churchill.
> >
> >So is this the nasty party shedding its repulsive past? Not a bit of it.
> >These results, for me, are a damning manifestation of the splintering of
> >the
> >anti-racist struggle, a triumph of uncle Tomism and worse. To witness the
> >son
> >of illegal Jewish immigrants strategically mobilising mob instincts 
> against
> >immigrants was bad enough. To then have the sons of an African and a
> >Ugandan
> >Asian reiterate these obscene prejudices made me suicidal. (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.selvesandothers.org/article9539.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >The Guardian
> >THE JOB IS DONE
> >The prime minister must accept that most British people want the troops 
> out
> >of Iraq
> >by Jonathan Steele
> >
> > Tony Blair insists British troops cannot leave Iraq until Iraq's own
> >police
> >and army can guarantee security. It is, of course, the same argument that
> >George Bush uses to justify keeping close to 150,000 US soldiers in the
> >country.
> >
> >Never mind the fact that pulling foreign troops out would almost 
> certainly
> >improve Iraq's security, since much of the violence is directed against 
> the
> >occupation. Without the occupation, the insurgency would decline
> >dramatically. (...) [ page 19 | Comment]
> >
> >-> http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1479411,00.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-------------------------------------------
> >
> >War on Want
> >CATERPILLAR: MAKING A KILLING
> >
> >by Joe Zacune and Nick Dearden
> >
> > Frequently in the global economy, it seems that corporations are able to
> >get
> >away with activities which would see an individual locked up in the Hague
> >for
> >decades.
> >
> >Take the case of Caterpillar. Without selling a single bomb, gun or F16
> >fighter, Caterpillar has been supplying the Israeli military with its 
> "key
> >weapon", in the words one Israeli commander, in its illegal and brutal
> >occupation of Palestine. In the words of the United Nations Special
> >Rapporteur on the right to food, Caterpillar's D-9 bulldozers have been
> >responsible for destroying "agricultural farms, greenhouses, ancient 
> olive
> >groves... numerous Palestinian homes and sometimes human lives". (...)
> >
> >-> http://www.selvesandothers.org/article9541.html
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
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