[IMC-US] google news

Thu May 26 14:45:42 CDT 2005

There are some very good reasons to continue doing it
piecemeal.  Boston got on recently using only our
features section, but when they picked us up they used
our whole site.  

Apparently that is exactly how the whole network got
kicked off googlenews back in the day.  Little green
footballs targeted us and posted some nasty shit then
started pelting googlenews with emails causing the
entire indymedia network to get booted..

That is the danger.  One site could get the whole
network dumped. 

The solution is in a little hack for dada that we have
that keeps the googlebots on our feature page, OR as
NYC handled it, bugging the shit out of google news
untill they stop searching the open newswires.  

We should not apply for the whole network because
almost immediately we would get canned.  

Additionally, and I don't know if this is because we
started applying again or what, but Googlenews just
initiated a new policy that will pull up more
"established, well respected" sites on a search query
before smaller ones like ours.  Which makes it a
little less urgetn to get on there in my opinion. 
still worth doing but not quite as powerful...

-Pete

--- "sheri at speakeasy.org" <sheri at speakeasy.net> wrote:

> hi,
> 
> does someone have a summary of all the imcs in the
> u.s. (and beyond) who get picked up by google news? 
> can we approach google a bit more wholistically
> rather than piecemeal.  it seems that might make
> more sense.  surely they are working with some
> criteria that appears to be invisible to us.
> 
> oneworld.net picks up indymedia stories especially
> from latin america all the time.  they realize the
> value of the content and the reporting and the
> information being provided and they highlight it on
> their front pages.  i'm on their notification list
> (for the past 5 years) so i see how often it
> happens.
> 
> i just think it would be helpful to gather a bit
> more information on which imcs currently are on
> google news (sf imc is if i'm not mistaken - at
> least i remember the conversation when they were in
> "discussions" with them) and figure out their
> criteria and build a small case and write it up and
> present it to them with some reasons why this makes
> sense to them and for us and to the people seeking
> information on google news.
> 
> just a thought.  maybe this has already been done
> and this is what people from individual imcs have
> been doing.
> 
> love
> sheri
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: max [mailto:max at michiganimc.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 03:25 PM
> > To: 'Working Group for IMC-US.', 'Chris Anderson'
> > Cc: 'Working Group for IMC-US.', 'imc'
> > Subject: Re: [IMC-US] [Fwd: Re: [#26244569] Please
> add San Diego	Independent	Media Center]
> >
> > google news is a mystery to me also. they:ve
> basically just stopped responding
> > to my emails. and i:ve been really polite too...
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Chris Anderson <chanders_imc at yahoo.com>:
> >
> > > Ask them why they'd put NYC Indy on but not you.
> I am
> > > personally curious to see them justify their
> response.
> > >
> > > and show them this link if you want
> > >
> >
>
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=nyc+independent+media+center&btnG=Search+News
> > >
> > > chris
> > >
> > > --- lotu5 <lotu5 at resist.ca> wrote:
> > > > Hey. I know imc us was talking about doing
> some work
> > > > to get listed
> > > > ingoogle news, so I went ahead and sent in an
> > > > application for sd
> > > > indymedia. Apparently we were rejected, which
> is
> > > > funny because I've seen
> > > > crazy right wing shit there and infoshop.org
> is
> > > > listed there.
> > > >
> > > > I just don't see what criteria we're not
> fulfilling.
> > > > Maybe I should
> > > > respond and ask them for more details.
> > > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [#26244569] Please add San Diego
> > > > Independent Media Center
> > > > Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:17:17 -0700
> > > > From: Google News
> <source-suggestions at google.com>
> > > > To: lotus at indymedia.org
> > > >
> > > > Hi Lotus,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your suggestion. We apologize
> for our
> > > > delayed response. We
> > > > have reviewed sandiego.indymedia.org and
> cannot
> > > > include it in Google
> > > > News at this time. We appreciate your
> willingness to
> > > > provide your
> > > > articles to us, and we will log your site for
> future
> > > > consideration.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your interest in Google News.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > The Google Team
> > > >
> > > > Original Message Follows:
> > > > ------------------------
> > > > From: lotus at indymedia.org
> > > > Subject: Please add San Diego Independent
> Media
> > > > Center
> > > > Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:20:03 -0000
> > > >
> > > > Hello. I'm a volunteer with San Diego
> Indymedia.
> > > > We're working hard to
> > > > provide community access to media in order to
> get
> > > > out more honest and
> > > > accurate news from the San Diego/Tijuana
> region. We
> > > > have an editorial
> > > > collective that continuously monitors our
> newswire
> > > > to maintain its
> > > > accuracy and quality. Our editorial policy can
> be
> > > > found here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/static/aboutus.shtml
> > > >
> > > > In addition, members of our organization
> frequently
> > > > report on local events
> > > > themselves, including photo, video and audio
> > > > coverage.
> > > >
> > > > The rss feed of our features, selected by our
> > > > editorial group based on our
> > > > above editorial policy can be found here:
> > > >
> > > > http://sandiego.indymedia.org/sdimc.rss
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your time.
> > > >
> > > >   lotus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Language: en
> > > > NewsLocale: en
> > > > IssueType: recommend
> > > > SourceURL: http://sandiego.indymedia.org
> > > > Associated: associated_yes
> > > > Name: lotus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > encrypted mail preferred // gpg key id
> 0x250E12BF
> > > > //
> > > > http://deleteTheBorder.org
> > > > http://radioActiveradio.org
> > > > http://sandiego.indymedia.org
> > > > http://ORGANICcollective.org
> > > >
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