[Imc] hiding a story

David Young dyoung at onthejob.net
Tue Sep 18 16:42:18 UTC 2001


Have other IMCs received the same article? How have they dealt with it?

I support hiding it until more information is available.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:16:15AM -0500, Paul Riismandel wrote:
>  If it turns out that the guy who she claims killed her son didn't, then
> this is a clear case of libel-- in fact, it doesn't get much clearer than
> that.  The accused guy can sue us, and if we're in deep doodoo if we can't
> show that we know it to be true.
> 
> --paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hagy
> To: Paul Riismandel
> Cc: 'imc at urbana.indymedia.org'
> Sent: 9/18/2001 8:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Imc] hiding a story
> 
> 
> i don't understand why this was hidden.  it's not advocating the killing
> of someone, merely pointing out the puny sentence the judge found
> necessary.  and it's reporting from a parent's perspective. besides, how
> much of what we have on our website is truly verifible?  in light of
> that,
> i support unhiding it, else we become censors, and hide everything we
> can't verify (which would cover a large amount of our material on the
> web).
> 
> brian
> 
> 
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Paul Riismandel wrote:
> 
> > I want to let people know that I hid a story on the website today.  It
> has
> > nothing to do with terrorism or threats.  I hid it because it
> contained
> > potentially libelous information that cannot be reasonably checked and
> the
> > person who left it left no name, e-mail or any other way to contact.
> >
> > You can see the text below.  If anyone has an objection I will unhide
> it,
> > though I think it best to xxx out names even so.  I think any final
> decision
> > should be made at the steering meeting this week.
> >
> > The article was called:"23 year old son killed by nc teacher"
> >
> > Here is the text (note that i removed the names since that is what
> could be
> > considered libelous and the imc list is archived on the web):
> > "My 23 yr old son xxxxx was killed in February of 2001. He was killed
> by a
> > 36 year old man, xxxxx that has a teaching certificate and is pursuing
> his
> > doctorate at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, NC. My son
> was
> > invited to this man's house and was unarmed. This man went to his
> closet and
> > got his 45 handgun out of the bedroom closet, unzipped the case, took
> the
> > gun and holster out of the case, took the gun out of the holster,
> ejected a
> > bullet to make sure that there was a bullet in the gun's
> chamber(loaded) and
> > killed my son with a shot to my son's chest. The bullet pierced my
> son's
> > heart and did massive internal damage. My son was not armed, did not
> try to
> > fight because the man had the gun aimed at my son's chest from about 3
> feet
> > away. My son pled for his life but was shot and killed anyway. This
> killer
> > is a teacher and pursuing a doctorate in education, he pled guilty to
> > involuntary manslaughter. Will serve time in jail on weekends for a
> couple
> > of months and is on probation for 4 years. Apparently the value of my
> son's
> > life was not very important. My son leaves behind families and friends
> that
> > are appalled at this injustice. My son's wife will have to raise their
> 2
> > small boys and their baby that was just born earlier this month. Is
> there
> > any justice at all left in America?"
> >
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