[Imc] hiding a story

[Brian Hagy]

i agree with sandra.

brian


On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Sandra Ahten wrote:

> It seems to me that we are more libelous if we decide which stories to hide
> and which not too.  We are then giving the message that we are checking for
> accuracy. If we have a truly open policy and the people who post the stories
> are responsible for their own message and we don't in anyway verify
> anything- then I think there is less chance that we would be held
> accountable.  As I said, if, on the other hand, we check accuracy in some -
> we would have to do it in all.
> I propose you Unhide the story.
> Sandra
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Riismandel" <p-riism at ntx1.cso.uiuc.edu>
> To: "'Brian Hagy '" <bhagy at onthejob.net>; "Paul Riismandel"
> <p-riism at ntx1.cso.uiuc.edu>
> Cc: <imc at urbana.indymedia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [Imc] hiding a story
>
>
> > If it turns out that the guy who she claims killed her son didn't, then
> > this is a clear case of libel-- in fact, it doesn't get much clearer than
> > that.  The accused guy can sue us, and if we're in deep doodoo if we can't
> > show that we know it to be true.
> >
> > --paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Hagy
> > To: Paul Riismandel
> > Cc: 'imc at urbana.indymedia.org'
> > Sent: 9/18/2001 8:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Imc] hiding a story
> >
> >
> > i don't understand why this was hidden.  it's not advocating the killing
> > of someone, merely pointing out the puny sentence the judge found
> > necessary.  and it's reporting from a parent's perspective. besides, how
> > much of what we have on our website is truly verifible?  in light of
> > that,
> > i support unhiding it, else we become censors, and hide everything we
> > can't verify (which would cover a large amount of our material on the
> > web).
> >
> > brian
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Paul Riismandel wrote:
> >
> > > I want to let people know that I hid a story on the website today.  It
> > has
> > > nothing to do with terrorism or threats.  I hid it because it
> > contained
> > > potentially libelous information that cannot be reasonably checked and
> > the
> > > person who left it left no name, e-mail or any other way to contact.
> > >
> > > You can see the text below.  If anyone has an objection I will unhide
> > it,
> > > though I think it best to xxx out names even so.  I think any final
> > decision
> > > should be made at the steering meeting this week.
> > >
> > > The article was called:"23 year old son killed by nc teacher"
> > >
> > > Here is the text (note that i removed the names since that is what
> > could be
> > > considered libelous and the imc list is archived on the web):
> > > "My 23 yr old son xxxxx was killed in February of 2001. He was killed
> > by a
> > > 36 year old man, xxxxx that has a teaching certificate and is pursuing
> > his
> > > doctorate at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, NC. My son
> > was
> > > invited to this man's house and was unarmed. This man went to his
> > closet and
> > > got his 45 handgun out of the bedroom closet, unzipped the case, took
> > the
> > > gun and holster out of the case, took the gun out of the holster,
> > ejected a
> > > bullet to make sure that there was a bullet in the gun's
> > chamber(loaded) and
> > > killed my son with a shot to my son's chest. The bullet pierced my
> > son's
> > > heart and did massive internal damage. My son was not armed, did not
> > try to
> > > fight because the man had the gun aimed at my son's chest from about 3
> > feet
> > > away. My son pled for his life but was shot and killed anyway. This
> > killer
> > > is a teacher and pursuing a doctorate in education, he pled guilty to
> > > involuntary manslaughter. Will serve time in jail on weekends for a
> > couple
> > > of months and is on probation for 4 years. Apparently the value of my
> > son's
> > > life was not very important. My son leaves behind families and friends
> > that
> > > are appalled at this injustice. My son's wife will have to raise their
> > 2
> > > small boys and their baby that was just born earlier this month. Is
> > there
> > > any justice at all left in America?"
> > >
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