[Makerspace-keymembers] Costs for a glass lampworking starter kit

[Dena Strong]

OK, will do later tonight! My ballpark estimate is $140-$160 with shipping
and possible taxes included.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Gergana Slavova <
gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm fine with getting the kit + the glasses.
>
> ~Gergana
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good to me.
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So the glasses are are like $40 if I recall. And Dena you would know
>>> better but I think they are probably the one item that is pretty special
>>> and make the bead making a lot easier. I think a pair for the space would
>>> be pretty cool.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which version, though? Do y'all want the set with the didymium glasses,
>>>> or the under $100 version?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dena,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would just go ahead and order these materials.  You can fill out a
>>>>> form for reimbursement (attached).
>>>>>
>>>>> Emily
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Elizacorps <elizacorps at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> WOW... Custom spoke beads! I have plastic ones on one of my bikes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't wait!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be kind to yourself
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 0:20, Jeffrey Putney <quaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it would be a fun activity to be able do anytime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And tonight the bike project invited us to a jewelry making workshop
>>>>>> where they want to make jewelry from bike parts. I think it could be fun to
>>>>>> include some custom glass beads in this activity ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Gergana Slavova <
>>>>>> gergana.s.slavova at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have no other plans to purchase things in Jan/Feb/Mar and no
>>>>>>> major events planned.  I'm ok with spending the money.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Gergana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Emily Knox <emilyknox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the moment we have $500 in the budget for 2015Q1, just FYI.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Dena Strong <dena.strong at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, all! Gergana and Jeff asked me to mail out a list of what it
>>>>>>>>> would cost to put together a glass lampworking basic kit for the
>>>>>>>>> Makerspace. My hypothesis is that it should be doable for under $100 and
>>>>>>>>> that everything should be available at either the hardware store or the
>>>>>>>>> grocery store except for the actual glass rods and mandrel release. Let's
>>>>>>>>> see if that's an accurate guess...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Some Internet investigations later...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, it looks like a pair of didymium glasses are the break point
>>>>>>>>> between "could get going under $100" and "over $100."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a kit for $99 that would need the gas, glass, and a table
>>>>>>>>> protecting aluminum tray added; it contains a set of didymium glasses.  (
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sundanceglass.com/kitslamp1.htm ) Adding the gas,
>>>>>>>>> glass, and aluminum tray would take the total to about $140.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've got to admit this is a pretty good deal, because the lenses
>>>>>>>>> by themselves start at $60 and go up from there. If the Makerspace wants to
>>>>>>>>> own a set of those lenses, this kit is definitely the way to go because
>>>>>>>>> adding them on to a piecemeal order later would end up costing about $20-30
>>>>>>>>> more overall. (Getting the kit and adding glass/gas would total about $140.
>>>>>>>>> Getting the components separately and adding the glasses would cost
>>>>>>>>> $160-$170, without factoring in multiple shipping costs.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But it is possible to hit the "under $100" target if the didymium
>>>>>>>>> glasses aren't in the equation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we wanted to piece it out and not get the didymium lenses to
>>>>>>>>> start with, here's how the math would go:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fire:
>>>>>>>>> MAPP gas - $7.50, Menards
>>>>>>>>> Mag-torch aka hot head torch - $15, Menards (currently on sale for
>>>>>>>>> $12)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Table anchoring stuff (the Makerspace may already have some of
>>>>>>>>> these for other purposes too):
>>>>>>>>> C-clamp - $3
>>>>>>>>> 4" angle bracket - $3
>>>>>>>>> Hose clamp - $1.50
>>>>>>>>> Aluminum baking tray for table surface protection:  $3
>>>>>>>>> Vermiculite - (I've got a partial bag of the stuff, I'm happy to
>>>>>>>>> donate a gallon-ziploc of it for bead use)
>>>>>>>>> Wide mouth can or clay pot for holding the vermiculite - (I bet
>>>>>>>>> there's something kicking around we could reuse; if not, we should be able
>>>>>>>>> to find something suitable under $5)
>>>>>>>>> Regular non-didymium safety glasses - (the Makerspace has some,
>>>>>>>>> right?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glass stuff:
>>>>>>>>> Sampler set of 30 rods with assorted colors: $30 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mandrel release bottle: 4 oz - $7 from Sundance
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mandrels - $7 per dozen from Sundance, or $33 per pound;
>>>>>>>>> alternatively, 1 pound of stainless steel welding rods would be $15, in 36
>>>>>>>>> inch lengths that would need cutting down but would give you several dozen.
>>>>>>>>> (Given how easy it is to have a glass item adhere to the mandrel, a few
>>>>>>>>> dozen would be a good idea.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So the without-glasses version works out to $90ish by making our
>>>>>>>>> own mandrels from the pound of welding rods, or $108ish by buying a pound
>>>>>>>>> of already-made mandrels from Sundance along with the glass and bead
>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the options?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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